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When in conflict idealism ought to be more highly valued above pragmatism.

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Started: 5/19/2011 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 5 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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joeecc412

Con

READ EVERYTHING BEFORE YOU ACCEPT THIS DEBATE. I will be taking the side of con for this debate. I have tried the debate before but was not able to finish from being in the hospital. If you are going to accept this debate I ask that you have been involved in at least 3 debates and that you can finish this debate.
Round 1-accept debate and deff.
Round 2- opening arguements.
Round 3- 1st rebuttals.
Round 4- 2nd rebuttals.
Round 5- closing statements.

Definitions-------------------------
Pragmatism: a practical approach to problems and affairs.
Idealism: the tendency to represent things in their ideal forms, rather than as they are
Conflict:A state of disharmony between incompatible or antithetical persons, ideas, or interests; a clash.
Valued: To regard highly; esteem
Ought: Used to indicate obligation or duty.
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XimenBao

Pro

I thank Con for presenting an interesting topic for debate.

I am happy to debate with Con on either the best motivation for conduct or on a clash of established philosophical systems. However, in his R1 definitions, Con has mixed the definitions together.

Taking the relevant definitions from dictionary.com, this debate can either be idealism(1) vs pragmatism(2) in the sense of:

"the cherishing or pursuit of high or noble principles, purposes, goals, etc."

vs

"character or conduct that emphasizes practicality."

or

"any system or theory that maintains that the real is of the nature of thought or that the object of external perception consists of ideas."

vs

"a philosophical movement or system having various forms, but generally stressing practical consequences as constituting the essential criterion in determining meaning, truth, or value."

However, in his R1, Con has set the definition of pragmatism from the former against the definition of idealism from some form of the latter, possibly Platonic. Whichever way Con chooses to take the discussion, I’m happy to follow. I will note that if Con chooses to take the more philosophical option, he needs to show that the broadly construed systems are in some fundamental conflict.

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Debate Round No. 1
joeecc412

Con

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XimenBao

Pro

Forfiet; vote Pro
Debate Round No. 2
joeecc412

Con

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XimenBao

Pro

Forfiet; vote Pro
Debate Round No. 3
joeecc412

Con

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XimenBao

Pro

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Debate Round No. 4
joeecc412

Con

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XimenBao

Pro

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Debate Round No. 5
1 comment has been posted on this debate.
Posted by XimenBao 6 years ago
XimenBao
Cmon joe, 90 minutes left. Don't forfeit twice on the same topic.
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