The Instigator
jamai
Pro (for)
Losing
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The Contender
InquireTruth
Con (against)
Winning
68 Points

When it comes to truth, Christianity is no different from any other belief system.

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 3/26/2009 Category: Religion
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Voting Period
Viewed: 1,361 times Debate No: 7560
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jamai

Pro

First : I am not a debater, I have never tried a formal debate ever in my life but I thought I'd make good use of some additional free time of late and try my hand at a couple of debates. I have read some of your other debates and found myself going, 'Oh they should have argued this' or 'They should have countered that with this' so naturally I am here to debate.

I like debating Christianity because it's an easy way to debate a deeper metaphysical issue: the nature of truth. To keep it simple... there are two major assertions I'll be making:

My first assertion defines the epistemological origin of Christianity:

1) That Christianity is a subjective interpretation of the bible that differs from person to person and denomination to denomination.

My second assertion defines the nature of these beliefs:

2) That all beliefs in Christianity are a matter of faith, just as other beliefs are matters of faith. That is to say that they are only subjective beliefs and they can not be known to be objectively true, only believed to be.

From this I can go many places, but for the sake of focus and simplicity I want to see if we can agree on these two points in some manner, even if the words we'd use are different. From there I will present arguments founded on these points. I don't know if debates normally work this way but it makes sense to me that before we go into specifics we find a stable starting point.
InquireTruth

Con

I agree to the resolution as stated and the terms employed by my opponent. I look forward to his arguments.
Debate Round No. 1
jamai

Pro

jamai forfeited this round.
InquireTruth

Con

I was sincerely looking forward to my opponent's case. I hope he will be able to lay out his case in the following round.
Debate Round No. 2
jamai

Pro

jamai forfeited this round.
InquireTruth

Con

I was sincerely looking forward to my opponent's case. I hope he will be able to lay out his case in the following round.
Debate Round No. 3
jamai

Pro

jamai forfeited this round.
InquireTruth

Con

My opponent did not come for the debate. I hope he will come back and challenge me again when he is ready.

1. Christianity, in large part, is not subjective, though there are some particular views within Christianity that are adiaphora.

2. All beliefs are not a matter of faith. I believe the Bible makes true claims. We can study both secular and religious history (as well as archeology) to find that the Bible does indeed make true claims. Moreover, diametrically opposing belief systems cannot possibly be no different from one another. For instance, there is a God and there is not a God - both are systems of belief and both cannot possibly be true. Therefore, if Christianity is true, it is different than other belief systems, and if it is false, it is different from whatever system is true.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by rougeagent21 7 years ago
rougeagent21
How does PRO have 35 points?
Posted by Volkov 7 years ago
Volkov
B & A: PRO
Conduct: CON; due to PRO's forfeits
S & G: Tied
Argument: CON; This is close because I agree with PRO, but due to the unsourced claims by PRO and the lack of rebuttal, CON is defaulted.
Sources: Tied - no sources presented from either side.
Posted by RoyLatham 7 years ago
RoyLatham
No case made by either side, but Pro bears the burden of proof. Pro loses conduct by forfeiting. All con.
Posted by Yuanti 7 years ago
Yuanti
all points to con due to forfeit by pro.
Posted by InquireTruth 7 years ago
InquireTruth
Yeah, what was that about...? Challenging me and then bailing.
Posted by JustCallMeTarzan 7 years ago
JustCallMeTarzan
Grr - a good resolution wasted.
Posted by Yuanti 7 years ago
Yuanti
this was absolutely disappointing. Did I spell that right?
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