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Where do we stand with the Law (Torah)?

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Started: 12/11/2007 Category: Religion
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
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Alexas

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I believe that the Law has not been abolished that we should live by the Torah, it teaches us about loving one another and the wages of our sin. It is our Ten Commandments, it is our outline. I am not saying we need a sin sacrifice because I know that Jesus gave himself for our sins but I am saying that if we lived our lives the way the Word originally inteded us to live it then wouldn't life be different for everyone? "In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God and the Word was God". In the beginning was the Torah and the Torah was God, therefore didn't Jesus walk out the Torah and teach Torah and aren't we supposed to be Christ-like?
jbruner

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There are a plethora of flaws in your argument.

First, you give no reason why anyone should follow the Torah rather than any other set of religious laws, such as the Islamic Shari'a law, the Buddhist Eightfold Path, the Hindu Veda scriptures, or even L. Ron Hubbard's precepts of Scientology. Without a specific reason to follow the Torah rather than a different set of religious law, there is no reason to choose it specifically.

Second, Jesus did not teach Torah and was in fact antithetical to the teachers of the Torah, the oft-derided Pharisees. In John 9:14 Jesus openly disregards the Sabbath, believing the specific commandments of the Torah to be outdated and irrelevant to the practice of Christianity. Further, he openly asks gentiles to join the church, stating they are not obligated to be Jewish or practice the Law of Judaism. He further states only converted Jews are bound by old testament law, implying any Christian who was born a Christian or was not specifically a Jew first (the vast majority of Christians) should not follow the Torah.

Even if you are supposed to be Christ-like, Jesus did not always follow Torah.

However, the most powerful argument is that you are choosing the Torah over all other sets of religious and secular law without warrant; Before you can even begin this debate you must tell us WHY the Torah of Judaism is preferable to the scripture and law of any other religion.
Debate Round No. 1
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