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Where does Supernatural powers come from if there is no God?

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Started: 12/18/2016 Category: Religion
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Fx-82ZAPLUS

Pro

Only an ATHEIST may accept this debate challenge. Do not accept if you're Christian, and believe in supernatural powers. Also, there is no acceptance round.

Let's assume for a second that God is a myth, and all of the prophets and pastors in the world today are " fake ".

From where do they get supernatural powers to predict the future, make the blind see, make the deaf hear, and make the lame walk?

I've provided videos by an African Prophet called Shepherd Bushiri. The prophecies were given on Live services, and they all have come to pass. How is this Prophet able to make accurate prophecies such as these if there is no supernatural powers?

Nigeria mosque bombing prophecy

Tanzania earthquake prophecy

Zambia's presidential election prophecy

Airplane catches fire in America prophecy-

https://www.youtube.com...

https://www.youtube.com...

http://www.aljazeera.com... (Mosque bombing )

http://www.bbc.com... ( Tanzania Earthquake )

http://www.telegraph.co.uk... ( Plane)
SSotolux

Con

How is this sufficient proof that there is a god,or supernatural phenomena? have you took into consideration, that he could have possibly been behind the tragic event that happen? This goes for the first video, I will discuss the other ones in a bit. If someone is able to predict in detail about some upcoming disaster that is going to occur. They're either behind it or involved, but the easiest thing to do is believe some other higher power from an unknown dimension gave him the power to predict the future. If that's the case why did he let it happen? In the video it explains it happened 30 days after he said it would. Which is plenty of time to do something.
Debate Round No. 1
Fx-82ZAPLUS

Pro

They're either behind it or involved, but the easiest thing to do is believe some other higher power from an unknown "


Accordig to the NTSB a turbine disk broke loose within the engine of an American Airlines plane, sparking a fire just before takeoff from Chicago O"Hare International Airport. No foul play suspected. How did Shepherd Bushiri then cause the turbine disk to break loose?


How did Shepherd Bushiri cause the magnitude 5.7 earthquake that killed 13 people and injured 200 plus people in Tanzania?


An slamic extremist group, Boko Haram, is suspected to be behind the suicide bomb attack at a mosque in Nigeria. Shepherd Bushiri is not the suspect, nor is he the founder, or leader of the aforementioned group. How is he behind this?

How was Shepherd Bushiri behind Edgar's presidential election victory in 2015?
SSotolux

Con

"This goes for the first video, I will discuss the others in a bit" I was speaking for the first video so your rebuttal is irrelevant towards the other 2 videos. But you haven't answered my question how do you know it's some magical god that is giving him the knowledge to predict this? If so why did he not do something to stop it wouldn't he be guilty? How do we know it isn't just some type of scientific law we haven't discovered yet?
Debate Round No. 2
Fx-82ZAPLUS

Pro

" I will discuss the others in a bit" This evokes a chuckle. You have been saying that since round one, and you still haven't discussed sh!t. Prophets receives revelations and directions from God for the benefit of those who believe in him. They are also able to see into the future and foretell coming events so that the world may be warned. I've just realized that I'm debating a big stupid pvssy. Instead of arguing, and explaning how the Prophet in question got to accurately predict the aforementioned events if there are no supernatural powers, this stupid tit is typing and asking a lot of bullsh!t, as if my computer has a toilet handle attached to it that enables me to flush the sh!t coming out of his mouth!

Thanks for wasting my time, dumb dumb.
SSotolux

Con

Just because you're in-comprehensive and don't understand extrapolations, doesn't mean you can assume he is being given magical powers. Many people predict who will win an upcoming presidential candidacy, as well as natural disaster based on info and stats. He isn't even specific with full detail he is vague, it seems like you're too weak-minded and insensate to understand extrapolation. Plane disasters aren't rare and they do happen, so predicting one will happen isn't something out of this world. You fail to even answer my question, on why he did he not make an effort to stop the bombings? maybe let authorities know or try and hold the plane. Because he's a pseudo prophet who manipulates naive sheep, like you who believe it's god whenever it's something you can't explain, so keep placing your money in the fedora every Sunday hoping one day you will beat stupidly.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by FollowerofChrist1955 12 months ago
FollowerofChrist1955
You should attend this debate:
Atheism- A lost reality! A hopeless, helpless cause!
Posted by Sonofcharl 1 year ago
Sonofcharl
do
Posted by Fx-82ZAPLUS 1 year ago
Fx-82ZAPLUS
These comments evokes a chuckle.
Posted by canis 1 year ago
canis
Mosque bomb...Some people told him about it. Or he was involved in the planning.
Posted by canis 1 year ago
canis
Eathqueak...He could hardly miss
http://earthquaketrack.com...
Posted by jo154676 1 year ago
jo154676
With the airplane thing all he said was something about an airport in america and then made a motion with his hands that is quite ambiguous. When you look at the data (http://www.planecrashinfo.com...) accidents with airplanes are not common but they are far from rare.
Posted by jo154676 1 year ago
jo154676
With the presidential election, he only predicted someone with an L in their name to win, then he found a candidate with that and gave him advice on how to win and gave hims strategy. Are prophets supposed to impact the prophecies they fortold? Thats like betting on a team, and then giving the head coach gameplan and advice on how to win, it doesn't really count.
Posted by jo154676 1 year ago
jo154676
Tanzanian earthquake isn't hard to predict when you look on a tectonic plate map and see there is a line right through tanzania. It would be like predicting an earthquake in some parts of california.
Posted by Fx-82ZAPLUS 1 year ago
Fx-82ZAPLUS
Accurately.
Posted by Fx-82ZAPLUS 1 year ago
Fx-82ZAPLUS
Those videos I provided are accurate prophecies. They all came to pass. How was he able to accuratately make those predictions?
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