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Whether the new Arkham game is going to be better than Asylum and City.

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Started: 10/17/2012 Category: Entertainment
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I really believe that it will be better than the city game because when you start at the beginning, it helps you build an incredible backstory for the characters you have grown attached to in the past two games. Joker is just starting to be joker, thomas elliot has not turned into hush yet, and batman has not encountered joker yet! This adds up to what looks like a really fun game!


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Debate Round No. 1


My first example is the origin of batman. Shortly after Bruce Wayne becomes batman, he meets the Joker. Rocksteady could make the game about how bruce wayne becomes batman and gets introduced to his various villains. They could explain exactly where and who bruce trained with in preparation to become the batman. They could also explore Harley and the joker's relationship instead of the standard crazy guy and crazy girl get together and plan to kill a guy who looks like a bat. After we've been playing as the batman, it might be interesting to play as bruce wayne in the process of becoming batman.


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Contention 1- Unpredicability-
The quality of the next Arkham Game is rather unpredictable. The question is: Can you predict the future? Probably not, I can't either. But I will attempt to swerve it in my favor and prove that it probably won't be better.

Arkham City-
Metascore: 96 out of 100

Given the Metascore there's is only a 4% chance that the next Arkham game will be statistically better.

Aggregate scores
GameRankings (PS3) 95.94%[12]
(X360) 94.06%[93]
(PC) 90.79%[94]
Metacritic (PS3) 96/100[11]
(X360) 94/100[95]
(PC) 91/100[96]
Review scores
PublicationScore A[97]
Electronic Gaming Monthly 10/10[98]
Eurogamer 9/10[99]
Game Informer 10/10[100]
GamePro 5/5 stars[101]
GameSpot 9/10[102]
GameTrailers 9.3/10[103]
IGN 9.5/10[104]
Official PlayStation Magazine(UK) 10/10[105]
Official Xbox Magazine 10/10[106]
X-Play 5/5 stars[107]
Joystiq 4.5/5 stars

Batman: Arkham City received critical acclaim. Aggregating review websites GameRankingsand Metacritic gave the PlayStation 3 version 95.94% and 96/100,[11][12] the Xbox 360 version 94.06% and 94/100[93][95] and the PC version 90.79% and 91/100.[94][96]

The Australian Official PlayStation Magazine awarded a perfect score of 10 stating that the game "is not only the best superhero game ever made, it's one of the best games ever made... it brings the Caped Crusader's world to life better than any comic, movie or television show before it".[109] Game Informer also gave a perfect 10 score, labeling it ""the best licensed video game ever made" and stating "Arkham City not only lives up to the standards set by Arkham Asylum, it bests its predecessor."[100] Play3 (Germany) awarded a score of 92%, calling it "the best superhero game ever made".[110] Games Master awarded a score of 97%, calling it "one of the greatest games ever conceived."[111] Joystiq awarded it 4.5 out of 5, crediting the developers for "breathing life into a staggeringly beautiful world; one which hums not only with opportunity, but ambition", but criticized the dialog as clichéd.[108]Eurogamer awarded a score of 9 out of 10, lamenting that it lacks the same "surprise" as its predecessor, but praising the detailed world, the wide cast, and the variety of activities and missions.[99]

The Harley Quinn's Revenge DLC was given 8 out of 10 by with the main drawback being the story's short length.[112] IGN gave it a 9.0 out of 10 and included it as an Editor's Choice.[113]


Worldwide, the game sold 2 million units in its first week of approximately 4.6 million shipped units, compared to Arkham Asylum which sold 4.3 million units in its entire release. This made Arkham City one of the fastest selling games ever.[114] On February 8, 2012, it was announced that over 6 million units of the game had been shipped since release.[115]

During the first week of sales in the United Kingdom, Batman: Arkham City became the number 1 selling game on all available formats, topping the all-format,[116] PS3[117] and Xbox 360 charts,[118] replacing FIFA 12. It became the fourth biggest launch of 2011 after FIFA 12, Gears of War 3 and L.A. Noire, and Warner Bros. biggest UK game launch ever, doubling the first week sales of Arkham Asylum.[119]

According to NPD Group, Batman: Arkham City was the second-best selling game in the United States for October 2011, selling 1.5 million copies across available formats, the tenth-best selling in November,[120][121] and the seventh-best selling game overall in 2011.[115] Additionally, game-rental service GameFly announced that it was the most requested game of 2011, beating out Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3.[115]

Arkham Asylum-
Metascore: 91 out of 100

Given the Metascore there's is only a 9% chance that the next Arkham game will be statistically better.

Aggregate scores
GameRankings 93.07% (PS3)[38]
92.12% (PC)
91.89% (X360)
Metacritic 93 (PS3)[39]
92/100 (PC)
91/100 (X360)
Review scores
PublicationScore A-[40]
Eurogamer 9/10[41]
Game Informer 9.5/10[42]
GamePro 4/5 stars[43]
GameSpy 5/5 stars[44]
GameTrailers 9.0/10[45]
IGN 9.3/10[46]
Official PlayStation Magazine(UK) 9/10[47]
PSM 5/5 stars[48]
X-Play 4/5 stars[49]
Guinness World Records Most Critically Acclaimed Superhero Game[50]
2009 Video Game Awards Studio of the Year[51]
GamesRadar 2009 Game of the Year[

Arkham Asylum received universal acclaim from critics, and holds a 92.12% atGameRankings, with the PC version, a 91.89% for X360 and 93.07% for PS3.[38] and 92% atMetacritic.[39] GameStats currently holds the game at 9.1/10.[53] The game also holds aGuinness World Record for Most Critically Acclaimed Superhero Game Ever with an average score of 91.67 from reviews around the world.[50] The previous record holder, Marvel vs. Capcom 2, had an average of 90.0. Two million copies of the game were sold in the first three weeks after release on consoles.[54]

The first review of the game was published by GamesMaster. The magazine awarded Arkham Asylum a 96%.[55] Electric Playground declared that the game "simultaneously breaks the Batman videogame curse, and gets on track to become one of the best games of the year."[56] Game Informer praised the game, stating, "Batman: Arkham Asylum is this year'sBioShock, not just from the connection established with the world, but from its ability to innovate where new ideas are needed, and moreover, deliver an adventure unlike any other." It was rated 9.5/10.[42] OPM gave Arkham Asylum a 9/10, citing "Arkham Asylum is comfortably the best comic book game that PlayStation's ever had, and is up there with the system's best actioners, full stop." OPM summarized the game as "a class act".[57]

Xbox World 360 scored Arkham Asylum 95%, stating "a massively impressive licensed game."[58] IGN's Greg Miller gave the game a 9.3 out of 10, praising the voice acting, the story and overall gameplay and called it "the greatest Comic Book game of all time."[46]Eurogamer also praised the game, stating "this isn't just the best grown-up Batman game, it's the best superhero game, bar none", and scoring Arkham Asylum with a 9/10.[41]'s Thierry Nguyen gave the game an A-, stating that developer Rocksteady "manages to combine combat, stealth, storytelling, and cartoon voices into the best digital Batman simulator we've seen to date."[40] GameTrailers praised the game's "little details that truly bring Arkham Asylum to life", and that consumers should "know that this is a game worth playing", giving Arkham Asylum a 9.0/10.[54]

In a more critical review, Zero Punctuation noted that the "complaints are still just minor fissures", the boss fights "aren't up to much", and the sequence with Killer Croc is "the absolute low point of the whole game".[59]

Debate Round No. 2


Yes, i'll admit the margin is small. But it was small with arkham asylum, but that turned out to be a great game! 9% chance is better than no chance at all.


My opponent has not refuted my arguments, my resolution still stands.

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