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gametimer
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Lexus
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Which has the deadliest bite? Zombies or Vampires?

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Lexus
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 5/27/2015 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Rounds (3)
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gametimer

Pro

I'm for the zombies. By "bite" I mean infection rates.
Lexus

Con

I accept. Because of a lack of clarity, I am going to assume that the BoP lies on pro. This means that I can effectively argue that the infection rates are equal, that there are no infection rates, or that the infection rates of vampires are higher than zombies.

Definitions:
Zombie: a ficticious being that is a corpse that has been reanimated from the dead, especially by means of a supernatural power or a spell
Vampire: a ficticious being that is a corpse that leaves its grave at night to drink the blood of the living by biting their necks with long pointed canine teeth.
Infection: the process of infecting or the state of being infected
Rate: a measure, quantity, or frequency
Deadliest: the most able to cause death
Debate Round No. 1
gametimer

Pro

Obviously, we will have to compare viruses with potential "zombie like symptoms" and guesstimate on how quickly it can spread. We can never be so sure but you know, we can improvise.
Lexus

Con

I will start my round by defining what 'ficticious' means, and then go on to make a logical conclusion using this definition.
Ficticious: imaginatively produced or set forth [1].
This means that, by definitions that pro automatically accepts in R1, neither of these creatures really exist -- rather, they are imaginatively produced. The imagination 'exists' within the brain, not in the material world, so it is obvious to see that these creatures do not really exist.

In order to take a measurement of the ability to cause death of a bite from either of these creatures, they must have an objective reality, or they must exist. This is part of the intrinsic nature of a measurement -- measurements cannot be falsified otherwise they are not truly measurements, but instead what we want to believe or estimations.

P1. Neither of these creatures exist.
P2. Existence is necessary for measurements about their deadliness.
C1. We cannot measure the deadliness of these creatures.

The resolution states that either one of these creatures must be the deadliest, however we cannot measure the deadliness, and thus the resolution is successfully negated.


[1]. http://dictionary.reference.com...


I would also like to point out to the gentle reader that pro has not met the BoP that they have automatically imposed upon themselves. They actually concede by saying that we should "guesstimate", which is an estimate, not a measurement. This directly refutes the reoslution at hand. My opponent says that we must improvise, but again, this is not a measurement of deadliness, but instead an estimate. Due to the concession of pro, vote con.
Debate Round No. 2
gametimer

Pro

Fine you win, congratulations.
Lexus

Con


Thank you for a fun debate.

Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Lexus 1 year ago
Lexus
thanks
Posted by Karnathan 1 year ago
Karnathan
I do love a good word twist.
Posted by gametimer 1 year ago
gametimer
Well , Zombies are undead humans in lore correct? Let's take a human, set up a pressure machine, and bite on it hard as possible. After about 25 trials, take the average pounds per a square inch. For vampire, replicate a metallic jaw set with the fangs, and with a pressure machine, measure its strongest bite. But on infection rates, your right you cannot tell. But who knows, vamps could be out there. I personally don't believe, but there could be.
Posted by CookieMonster9 1 year ago
CookieMonster9
You can't decide deadly bites on creatures that don't even exist. And "bites" and "infectious rates" are two completely different things.
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Vote Placed by dsjpk5 1 year ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Concession
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro concedes.
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Reasons for voting decision: Con had much better resources and arguments. Fun debate.