Which is the most painful death in Saw?
Debate Rounds (3)
Round 1: Claim
Round 2: Argument
Round 3: Closing
Claim: I think the most painful death in Saw would be The Blade Table or Ten Pints of blood.
C1: There is no definite way to determine the amount of pain in a fictional setting.
This argument is mainly a kritik. Saw is a horror franchise consisting mainly of several horror films. Due to the fictional nature of Saw, it is impossible to know how much pain is felt, due to actors not actually feeling any pain.
Furthermore, there is no way to actually measure the amount of pain that one could feel, without tools such as the dolorimeter.  The amount of pain can only be assumed by the audience based on the amount of gore, the intensity of the victim's reaction, and the emotional context and connotations attached to the killing. The amount of pain is then determined by the audience's thoughts.
Therefore, there is no way to objectively argue what death caused the most pain in Saw. Pro must first show how pain can be measured in Saw to affirm the resolution.
Thus, Pro has failed to negate my previous contention, and the resolution remains unaffirmed. I advise Pro to describe the conditions of his next debate in more detail, so that he will be able to enjoy subjective debates on this site, and will not have to be annoyed by freeloing newbies who just want to color in their ribbon next to their username.
The con has forgot to notice that his entire argument is not an opinion relevant to the question being asked; therefore, his argument would be invalid and irrelevant to this entire case.
I apologize if I wasted your time (even though we could have forfeit) on this argument, and make more clearer debate parameters for all sides. Thank you for your advice.
By the way, if you want to add some professionalism to your debates don't add "Vote Con" at the bottom, It's bias.
Pro has failed to advance his argument any more than his claim to what he thinks, while my kritik of the debate's resolution still remains standing. Pro then attempts to strawman my argument in not being relevant to the debate; on the contrary, it points out the logical flaw of the resolution, and how Pro cannot provide a logical argument to support his contention. In other words, Pro's sharing of his thoughts has been shown to be an invalid argument, and has failed to negate my argument.
Vote Con. ;)
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Vote Placed by Peepette 9 months ago
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Reasons for voting decision: PRO states that Blade table or Ten Pints of blood is the most painful death in the movie. CON pulls a kritik with there?s no means of determining or measuring the amount of pain depicted. The pain can only be measured by audience reaction, thus no objectivity can be made in which death is the most painful. PRO does recognize that the debate is based on conjecture but goes on the state the debate is still a debate even if based on opinion. CON rebuts that proof of opinion is required with the ability to measure pain which is the crutz of the debate. It?s unfortunate that CON pulled the kritik; it takes the fun out of debating and discourages new members. But the objective view of the voter has to give the debate to CON. S&G tied, no readability issues from either. Conduct tied, both possessed appropriate demeanor. Sources tied, N/A to the arguments presented.
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