Which one of these fitness models is hotter?
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This girl is 5' 2" and weighs 130. Her a.ss measures 39 inches and it's unbelievably sexy. Sort of reminds you of the days of voluptuous women when women were not very fat. Every watch those old movies with those stars? Like Marilyn. There was also one I watched with someone named Jane Russell. Ooooo la la!!! A nice rear is hard to beat.
Tamara D video
Both of these women focus on the rear in their videos. Even Vicki says things like how to get a big butt. Vicki's rear and legs are excellent, but they are not voluptuous like Tamara. Neither girl has huge, voluptuous breasts, so the butt is the X factor.
Someone also mentioned posting a different video of Vicki. I actually think that is the best one. If you think another one is better, then please post.
Beauty is certainly subjective, but there are objective qualities that make one model more sexy than another. Tamara has more of those qualities in her video by far.
As for people being attracted to the a)ss, this is not a new trend. On the contrary, Sir Mixalot's song, "I Like Big Butts and I Cannot Lie" was released nearly 20 years ago. Big butts have been perceived as attractive for awhile now (many years before that song was even released).
hot adjective (SEXY)
" informal - sexually attractive, or feeling sexually excited
This doesn't mention anything about butt size.
What's new is that the big butt is not from fatty flesh. It's also new for white women.
The extra sexiness comes in Tamara's actions in the video. Most of the video is boring, so just check the first minute and last minute of the video. She has great interplay with the camera. Watch how she touches her thigh in sexy fashion. She then turns around showing her sensuous a.ss. She has the audience in the palm of her hand and she knows it.
She also does well with detail. She glances at the camera very quickly, knowing all the boys are harder than a rock at this point. I don't even see that sly glance from professional models. The end is good because she just ad libs an ending that seems to not conclude or be scripted, but Just fairly natural.
Tamara combines the natural camera interplay, the extra sensuousness, and the girl next door with the hint of wildness. Vicki has some of this, but not to the degree of Tamara. Tamara also has the more voluptuous and sensuous a.ss, which is the goal and point of both girls.
"Watch how she touches her thigh in sexy fashion."
"She glances at the camera very quickly, knowing all the boys are harder than a rock at this point."
"Tamara also has the more voluptuous and sensuous a.ss"
And make claims founded by no evidence whatsoever:
"What's new is that the big butt is not from fatty flesh. It's also new for white women."
"Years ago, a big rear had nothing to do with being in shape or having a rock hard rear."
"Tamara also has the more voluptuous and sensuous a.ss, which is the goal and point of both girls."
Claim #1- That's what a big butt is. Fat. It also consists of muscle, but if you want to talk about which girl's butt has more fat in it, it's Tamora's. Not that any of this matters, because, as I have repeatedly stated, beauty is subjective, and having a big rear end doesn't mean that one girl is more pretty than the other.
Claim #2- No proof for this claim whatsoever. Also, again, we aren't arguing about current trends, we are arguing about which woman is more attractive. Again, however, this is impossible to do with logic, because what you find sexually appealing, others might not. I'm just saying Tamara is not more "hot" than Vicki, in my opinion. I can say Vicki has a prettier face, or better breasts, (which are both true statements for me), but I can't back up my claims with logic or evidence of any kind. In the end, this is what the argument would look like:
Guy #1-No SHE'S hotter!
Guy#2- No SHE'S hotter!
Sounds like a stupid argument, doesn't it?
Claim #3- These women are fitness instructors, not models. Their "point" is not to have a big a(ss. It is to show people (specifically women) workout techniques.
The debate is about who is hotter. You define hot as sexy, and I will accept that. A rump is part of sex appeal. It is one area that will sexually stimulate a person. A face will usually not give you a boner, at least by itself. Boner inducing parts alone are the rear, the breasts, legs, etc. These are combined with action that gives a woman sex appeal.
The parts and actions are measureable. One example is the classic 36-24-36. Much of it is also binary, as in it's there or not there. Both women perform sexy action, as in getting down on all fours. Tamara however, provides the additional, such as the thigh touching, hair swinging, and sly camera glances. These objectively occur.
Yes, their point IS actually to have a big a.ss. Vicki even says that her video here is about getting a "big, round butt." Watch for quote about 30 seconds into this video: https://www.youtube.com.... Again, these are objective. The goal is to have a big butt and Tamara wins that contest. The fantasy part you speak of is a consequence of watching the video. After all, who would not get a hard on watching either one of these girls?
Next point. I think the blond hair of Tamara gives her an edge over the dark hair of Vicki.
I am partial to dark hair, but I have to acknowledge that blond hair is somewhat objectively better. Blonds have traditionally had this higher aura than dark hair. Redheads can be this exceptional enigma and brunettes have this dark beauty, but more often than not, the red-blooded American male has this fascination, intrigue and infatuation with the blond. Blond Marilyn Monroe had it over anyone in pin-up girl history.
The blond hair is also more appealing in the nether region. Even if a girl shaves her hair, the blond hair is often more appealing in that area. The shaven dark hair can appear more coarse, like a shadow. The blond hair seems more subtle, velvety, gentle, delicate. Even a slightly furry blond area can be more appealing than shaved dark hair. If you had to look at a full bush like in some older girly magazine you find at a garage sale, then you would rather see a big blond bush than a big brown bush.
Paragraph Two Rebuttal - Again, sex appeal is different for every person, because everyone can be sexually aroused by different things. As for the last three sentences of this paragraph, my response is that people can be aroused by anything. Many people DO get erections just by looking at someone's face. We wouldn't, but people do.
Paragraph Three Rebuttal- Yes, things that people find sexually arousing can be measured. I'm not sure what you mean by this, though. This doesn't matter because everyone is sexually aroused by different things. Some people think big a)sses are more sexually arousing, and others think that small rear ends are.
Paragraph Four Rebuttal- That is a different video. And just because SHE doesn't have a big butt doesn't mean she isn't knowledgeable about workout techniques that help people get one.
Note:Vicki is a blonde in the video that you originally posted. That is the video we are debating. Not that this matters, because, again, people can be aroused by ANYTHING. Dark hair, red hair, and yellow/white hair.
In the original video that you posted, Vicki was a blonde. So everything after paragraph four is irrelevant.
Second, he has excellent taste. He likes Vicki's face and it certainly is a face to behold. I don't think either woman is a classic beauty, but they are both certainly cute. I would describe them as pretty or cute, but the debate is about who is hotter. That entails a few different aspects, some of it being body parts and physical action.
First rebuttal: Con has mentioned several times how these points can't be argued, but he undertook this debate. That does not strike my as logical, but so be it.
Second rebuttal: Con said Vicki's hair is blond, but that is only partly accurate. She is actually a bleach blond in the posted video. That was not the blond of which I spoke, especially considering that most women are not dying their muff hair. Even if they do, then the blond dye job still does not look as good as natural blond.
The last evidence is comparing pictures of the two women. I see that both girls have Instagram profiles. Compare the two. Remember that the debate is not who YOU think is hotter, but who presented the best case for either girl being hotter.
Both girls are certainly hotter than the planet Mercury, but Tamara is hotter by degree. Tamara combines natural and sexy camera action, a girl next door look, and a hint of wildness. Her legs and buttocks are more voluptuous. The Instagram pictures of her 39" a.ss in a g-string shows that her a.ss is not the fat butt of past years, but rather a new presentation of delectable sensuousness. All of these combined gives her the slight edge.
That being said, here are my closing arguments.
First Counter Rebuttal: I accepted this debate out of curiosity. I wanted to see how Pro would logically defend his stance of Tamara being more "hot". This is because the idea of beauty, as I have stated many times, varies from person to person. Granted, there are SOME similarities in people's taste in men/women that they would like to pursue sexually. An example of this is that people usually like smoother skin, specifically in women. However, there are also many differences in what people perceive as sexually attractive. Some people like brunettes, others tend to like blondes. Some people like bigger breasts, and others like smaller breasts. You cannot logically debate that one of these preferences is more correct than the other, and this is because sexual preferences are determined by genetics.
Second Counter Rebuttal: It doesn't matter whether you weren't speaking of bleach blondes in your last argument. Again, it is irrelevant because your preferences are not admissible as evidence in a debate.
Third Counter Rebuttal: These aren't even really arguments, just Pro's sexual preferences. Again, some people think flat butts are more "hot". Are their preferences less valid than his? Unless he can prove that they are with logic, they are not.
Please vote Con.
Note: Since Pro hasn't stated otherwise, he now has full BoP.
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Vote Placed by U.n 8 months ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Personally I would have preferred more pictures. Awarding a conduct point to Pro due to Con posting a youtube video of a 98 year old women in a hot fitness model debate. Bad choice, bad, very bad. I now need eye bleach!
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