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thetallest1
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emospongebob527
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Who would win in a battle between superman and batman.

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emospongebob527
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 10/10/2012 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 5 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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thetallest1

Pro

I say batman because he is freaking awsome, two because he has a cute sidekick(Robin) and 3 because he has an addictive theame song. Whats supermen got besides muscles history and a cape?
emospongebob527

Con

I accept.

State your case.
Debate Round No. 1
thetallest1

Pro

Ok so batman as far as i know has no weaknesses other than you know the whole issue ith wanting to do the right thing but not wanting to hurt someone in the process. Superman has a very well know weakness and his is a physical object. something which can be obtained. Superman is a hero so he would not put some ones life in jepordy in a battle, just because it is his opponets weakness.
emospongebob527

Con

That was a disappointingly weak argument.

Batman-

Abilities
Genius-level intellect
Peak physical and mental conditioning
Master martial artist, acrobat, detective, strategist, tactician, and escapologist
Use of high tech equipment, weapons, & gadgets
Master of stealth
Master of disguise
Proficient with technology
Access to vast wealth and criminal records
Trained computer hacker
Excellent observational skills
Photographic memory
Expert marksman

Superman-
Flight
Invulnerability
Superhuman Strength
Superhuman Speed
Super vision, consisting of:
X-Ray Vision
Telescopic/Microscopic Vision
Heat Vision
Super-hearing
Super Breath (including Freeze Breath)
Eidetic memory
Regeneration
Longevity
Other enhanced physical senses (including olfaction)
Debate Round No. 2
thetallest1

Pro

thetallest1 forfeited this round.
emospongebob527

Con

Extend lol
Debate Round No. 3
thetallest1

Pro

Superman weaknesses
He has a normal person that he likes
Kyrptonite
Batman
has no known love
the controversy between good and evil
Now which do you think has more attainable weaknesses
And you know what their 'Secret identities' are not so sercret.
emospongebob527

Con

emospongebob527 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
thetallest1

Pro

furthermore batman has more entertining movies and supermans special effects sucked and so batman would probably have more supporters, but supermn may get help from batmans many enemies.
emospongebob527

Con

Rebuttals-

"I say batman because he is freaking awsome, two because he has a cute sidekick(Robin) and 3 because he has an addictive theame song. Whats supermen got besides muscles history and a cape?"

Just because Batman is awesome, does not mean he could beat Superman in a fight.
Just because Robin has a "cute" sidekick, which is a matter of opinion. Does not mean he could beat Superman in a fight. Just because Batman has an addictive theme song doesn't mean he could beat Superman in a fight.

Superman has much more than "muscles history and a cape"

This is just a "brief" description of some of his powers:

As an influential archetype of the superhero genre, Superman possesses extraordinary powers, with the character traditionally described as "faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, and able to leap tall buildings in a single bound", a phrase coined by Jay Morton and first used in the Superman radio serials and Max Fleischer animated shorts of the 1940s as well as the TV series of the 1950s. For most of his existence, Superman's famous arsenal of powers has included flight, super-strength,invulnerability to non-magical attacks, super-speed, vision powers (including x-ray, heat-emitting, telescopic, infra-red, and microscopic vision), super-hearing, and super-breath, which enables him to blow out air at freezing temperatures, as well as exert the propulsive force of high-speed winds.

As originally conceived and presented in his early stories, Superman's powers were relatively limited, consisting of superhuman strength that allowed him to lift a car over his head, run at amazing speeds and leap one-eighth of a mile, as well as an incredibly dense body structure that could be pierced by nothing less than an exploding artillery shell. Siegel and Shuster compared his strength and leaping abilities to an ant and a grasshopper. When making the cartoons, the Fleischer Brothers found it difficult to keep animating him leaping and requested to DC to change his ability to flying; this was an especially convenient concept for short films, which would have otherwise had to waste precious running time moving earthbound Clark Kent from place to place. Writers gradually increased his powers to larger extents during the Silver Age, in which Superman could fly to other worlds and galaxies and even across universes with relative ease. He would often fly across the solar system to stop meteors from hitting the Earth, or sometimes just to clear his head. Writers found it increasingly difficult to write Superman stories in which the character was believably challenged, so DC made a series of attempts to rein the character in. The most significant attempt, John Byrne's 1986 rewrite, established several hard limits on his abilities: he barely survives a nuclear blast, and his space flights are limited by how long he can hold his breath. Superman's power levels have again increased since then, with Superman currently possessing enough strength to hurl mountains, withstand nuclear blasts with ease, fly into the sun unharmed, and survive in the vacuum of outer space without oxygen.

The source of Superman's powers has changed subtly over the course of his history. It was originally stated that Superman's abilities derived from his Kryptonian heritage, which made him eons more evolved than humans. This was soon amended, with the source for the powers now based upon the establishment of Krypton's gravity as having been stronger than that of the Earth. This situation mirrors that of Edgar Rice Burroughs' John Carter. As Superman's powers increased, the implication that all Kryptonians had possessed the same abilities became problematic for writers, making it doubtful that a race of such beings could have been wiped out by something as trifling as an exploding planet. In part to counter this, the Superman writers established that Kryptonians, whose native star Rao had been red, possessed superpowers only under the light of a yellow sun.

Superman is most vulnerable to green Kryptonite, mineral debris from Krypton transformed into radioactive material by the forces that destroyed the planet. Exposure to green Kryptonite radiation nullifies Superman's powers and immobilizes him with pain and nausea; prolonged exposure will eventually kill him. The only substance on Earth that can protect him from Kryptonite is lead, which blocks the radiation. Lead is also the only known substance that Superman cannot see through with his x-ray vision. Kryptonite was first introduced to the public in 1943 as a plot device to allow the radio serial voice actor, Bud Collyer, to take some time off. Although green Kryptonite is the most commonly seen form, writers have introduced other forms over the years: such as red, gold, blue, white, and black, each with its own effect.

As you can see Superman has much more than "history muscles and a cape".


"Ok so batman as far as i know has no weaknesses other than you know the whole issue ith wanting to do the right thing but not wanting to hurt someone in the process. Superman has a very well know weakness and his is a physical object. something which can be obtained. Superman is a hero so he would not put some ones life in jepordy in a battle, just because it is his opponets weakness."


On the contrary, Batman has a crippling disadvantage in his fight with Superman:
Batman's strength limits him to that of an elite olympic athlete, putting him at a crippling disadvantage against someone with the likes of Superman, please Pro! That's ridiculous.

Pro claims Superman has a weakness in the likenesses of an attainable, physical object but does not verify what this is, meaning she could very well be talking about:
A sandwich
My Dog
A hot dog
A car
An award

"Superman weaknesses
He has a normal person that he likes
Kyrptonite
Batman
has no known love
the controversy between good and evil
Now which do you think has more attainable weaknesses
And you know what their 'Secret identities' are not so sercret."

I don't see how having a normal person that he likes means he could be defeated by Batman.

Oh goody, a logical defense............ Kryptonite........

Here's my case: Everyone know that Superman's one weakness is Kryptonite (Green kryptonite) to be exact, other forms of kryptonite have a lesser effect on The Man of Steel.

Co-Contention to Defend My Rebuttal-

There is only one known substance that can protect Superman against green kryptonite, he has surprisingly easy access to: Lead............ That's right: Lead......

This substance protects Superman against kryptonic radiation and exposure. Given that Superman is aware that Batman has this kryptonite to protect himself against a rogue Superman. He would come to the fight prepared, he would wear the lead suit.......... Thus rendering any form or usage of kryptonite by The Dark Knight useless.......

"furthermore batman has more entertining movies and supermans special effects sucked and so batman would probably have more supporters, but supermn may get help from batmans many enemies."

The "opinion" that Batman "may" have more entertaining movies with "better" special effects does not mean he could beat Superman in a fight.

This is Batman vs. Superman not Batman and His Many Supporters vs. Superman or Batman vs. Superman and many of Batman's various enemies.

I would like the voters to know that I have demolished my opponents ill-mannered, condesceded, error ridden bug-a-boo arguments.

So I strongly urge the voters to:




VOTE CON

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Debate Round No. 5
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Reasons for voting decision: Although both forfeited, Con's failure to quote the Wikipedia page he offered as exposition of Superman's repetoire of powers counts at least a form of plagiarism. However, Con however did show that there was a wide rift between Batman and Superman in terms of sheer power and the insignificance of the prospect that Batman could/would exploit Superman's weakness.