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TheRealBatman117
Pro (for)
The Contender
GodIsMyRock374
Con (against)

Who would win in a fight, Batman(pro) or Spiderman(con)

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 11/16/2017 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 8 months ago Status: Debating Period
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TheRealBatman117

Pro

Batman beat the entire Justice League, Gotham City, and all of the Arkham inmates on his own! Also, Batman!
GodIsMyRock374

Con

Resolved, that Spiderman would defeat Batman in a fight. I defend this argument on the following grounds that 1). Spiderman has superhuman abilities, giving him a distinct advantage over the Dark Knight, that 2). Spiderman battles foes of a higher caliber than Batman does, and that 3). Peter Parker's profession as a journalistic photographer gives him an ability to analyze his surroundings with a unique perspective that Batman does not possess.
The definitions concerning this debate are as follows. "Win" is defined as "to be the victor in" according to Merriam-Webster Dictionary. "Fight" is defined as "to contend in battle or physical combat" according to Merriam-Webster Dictionary.
Debate Round No. 1
TheRealBatman117

Pro

Batman has beaten The entire Justice League, death, and many other villains, including, but not limited to, Carnage, Darkseid, and Venom, who regularly beats Spiderman. Batman also has the Thrasher, Stealth Suit, Hellbat Armor, and The Justice-Buster. You obviously know what I mean about fight Mr.Smarty-Pants! And besides batman beat the goddamn Martian Manhunter for God's sake! And there are more than 1 meanings of the word "fight", for example, "a violent confrontation or struggle", and "take part in a violent struggle involving the exchange of physical blows or the use of weapons".
GodIsMyRock374

Con

Spider man is a superhuman, meaning that he has special abilities and powers that not everyone possesses. According to Marvel.com "Peter can cling to most surfaces, has superhuman strength (able to lift 10 tons optimally) and is roughly 15 times more agile than a regular human" (Marvel). Alongside these remarkable characteristics, his web slinging capabilities give him an unparalleled weapon with incredible versatility and multi purpose usage. Not only this, but his "spidey" sense allows for "an early warning detection system linked with his superhuman kinesthetics, enabling him the ability to evade most any injury, provided he doesn't cognitively override the autonomic reflexes" (Marvel). His "natural" abilities allow him to out perform opponents such as Batman, who use primarily machines and martial arts, as seen by his victories over the Green Goblin and Dr. Otto Octavius, to name two of his more familiar enemies. As depicted by marvel, his spider sense allows him to evade injury, and if he stays focused in a battle, can pretty much stay unscathed. His special physical abilities allow him to move quickly, and though he may not be able to deliver strong blows like Batman can, he fights with his surroundings and his wit, delivering smaller blows, and weaving a web around his enemy (literally).

As for Spiderman's enemies, he regularly takes on enemies of an extremely high caliber, some, if not all, possessing extreme superhuman abilities. A few examples are Rhino, Sandman, Venom, Scorpion, Hobgoblin, and that is just to name a few. It is important to note that Batman does not posses superhuman abilities as these villains do, so to Spiderman, who has had quite a bit of practice fighting superhuman, he would not be as big a challenge. The biggest thing Batman has over Spiderman, is simply his tech and his brain. Batman is a considerable foe when it comes to contests of intellectual fervor, as displayed by the amount of dastardly psychopaths and sociopaths he must face. Spiderman is no dummy though, and has been able to stand his own against some very intelligent villains, such as J. Jonah Jameson, who is basically the Lex Luthor in the Spiderman Universe. But, at the end of the day, if you to strip the suit off, Spiderman would win in a contest of pure physical dispute.

Finally, Spiderman is a photographer, which means he has a different way of looking at things. This coupled with his Spider sense is an invaluable tool in looking for ways around Batman's defenses, and methods by which he can come out on top. It is all about the angles...literally.
Debate Round No. 2
TheRealBatman117

Pro

Batman has Batarangs which would cut cleanly through the web. Batman is way more aware of his surroundings because he trained with frikin ninjas! He also has mastered 127 kinds of martial arts. With Spiderman only knowing "the way of the spider". So He has NOTHING on Batman. Batman also has 12 degrees, mastered escape artistry, and pushed himself and is the most physically fit human on the planet. Also Batman's suit is basically a giant tazer.

In His utility belt, Batman carries a grapple gun, gas mask, tear gas, smoke pellets, and tracers. His batarangs also come in explosive, electric, and knock-out dart. He also survived getting his back broken, desinigration, and being a living time bomb that could wipe-out the entire galaxy.
GodIsMyRock374

Con

Okay, so first of all, in response to your argument about which villains Batman has defeated, I would like to point out that "Carnage, Darkseid, and Venom" are all Marvel Universe villains, and thus, Batman never would have had contact with them. And I would like to add that Batman was heavily defeated by Bane, when his back was broken, even though he lived. (According to our definition of win, it just means to take victor. Spiderman does not need to kill Batman in order to win. Victor means a person who defeats an enemy or opponent in a battle, game, or other competition. Defeat means to overcome or beat, but not necessarily kill.)

Also, I can find no evidence that Batman ever took on the Justice League. There is one comic, "JLA: Tower of Babel", where Batman makes plans to dispose of the Justice league, but Ra's Al Ghul steals these plans and takes down the entire Justice League, including Batman, before he can take action.

Besides that, I can find no evidence that Batman and the Martian Manhunter ever fought. They were both close allies who fought valiantly as members of the Justice League.
Debate Round No. 3
TheRealBatman117

Pro

Actually, in the 70's and 80's there was an inter-company crossover and that is when he beat them, and I actually have one of those comics. Batman beat the justice league in Batman: Endgame.

In the kids show, The Batman, he tricked J'onn.
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Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Soulman4764 7 months ago
Soulman4764
Sorry, Batman, had Robin and eventually when she turned good Catwoman.
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