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Whose pokemon team would win?

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Started: 5/22/2014 Category: News
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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I have changed my team up since my last pokemon match on here, so..

We will each state are pokemon in such order:

ablity/held item

move 1

move 2

move 3

move 4

we will state two pokemon each round, and the last round shall be how you can defeat each of the opposing team's pokemon. First round for acceptance only.


I would, even if this does not hold relevance, hope that they are all based at level 50. No hidden abilities, no mega evolutions, and (obviously) no legendary Pokemon, which are defined as only one being found within whatever game it may be and cannot be bred. All damage calculations will be done based on the average HP of the Pokemon and Defenses and stat raises from moves will be factored in as well. All this information can be found at . Neutral natures and no EV or IV training or breeding respectively. No items except those held. You may have the first two picks in this 'draft'. If you've any other rules or regulations, put them in the comments.
Debate Round No. 1


My first:

crap, forgot his ability..., no item(he would have Bannetite if we allowed mega evolutions...)

-Shadow Claw
-Shadow Force

and btw, we can tell the position in the team if we want,

Bannete= half annoyer (kills enemies slow and annoyingly) and half stabber

Natural Cure, Silk Scarf

-Hard Boiled

Position- tank/sweeper

On to you Con.


1. Tyranitar
Ability: Sand Stream
Item: Choice Band
- Crunch
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Pursuit

2. Volcarona
Ability: Flame Body
Item: Leftovers
- Fiery Dance
- Bug Buzz
- Quiver Dance
- Substitute

Back to you
Debate Round No. 2


I actually switched my Bannette with a pokemon, so I will be posting 3 Pokemon instead of 2)

Item: Odd Incense

-Dazzling Gleam
-Shadow Ball

(also note, we are allowed to use legendaries)

item: Wave incense

-Ice Beam
-Aqua Ring
-Water Spout
-Sheer Cold

ability: Intimidate
Item: Flame Plate

-Flame Burst

Back to u.


Kyuubi22 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3


My opponent will have to post 4 pokemon in his next round.

ability:Bad Dreams
item: one of the specs, i don't remember which...

-Dark Void
-Dark Pulse
-Sludge Bomb

Kyerem(fused with Reshiram)
ability: Turboblaze
item: Icycle Plate

-Ice Beam
-Freeze Burn
-Dragon Pulse

My rebuttals are next round, and all of my pokemon are lvl 100.


Kyuubi22 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4


You only provided a third of your Pokemon team, so I cannot justify them all. However, I can justify against Tyranitar and Volcarona.


While your Tyranitar has the ability Sand Stream, Kyogre's Drizzle will easily deflect this if he is sent out last. Tyranitar is also a Dark/Ground or Dragon type, while My Alakazam is weak to it, and Blissey would do laughable damage to it, Tyranitar is weak against fighting the most. However it is also weak against water, grass, ground, bug, and steel types. So basically, Kyogre could easily be able to deal with this, as water has a 2x hit ratio when against a Tyranitar(


It is a Fire/Bug. Bug is weak against rock, fire, flying and poison, and Fire is weak against water, ground and rock. Kyogre and Darkrai's Sludge Bomb can deal with this situation. Plus, Darkrai knows Dark Void, which, unless it misses or your pokemon has the ability Insomnia, all opponent's pokemon fall asleep.

If these are your entire team, I would win easily. Kyogre does all the work for me. If you don't state 4 more pokemon, 7 points go to me, remember that.


Kyuubi22 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
8 comments have been posted on this debate. Showing 1 through 8 records.
Posted by Equalityman 2 years ago
The fact you used a kyogre gave unfair advantages. Nobody likes to battle legendaries ruins the fun. I prefer not to even get legendaries if offered.
Posted by Kyuubi22 2 years ago
You may add in Banette's ability and item if you choose to give him one.
Posted by yomama12 2 years ago
we are doing two pokemon per round, remember.
Posted by yomama12 2 years ago
i already did, ur turn.
Posted by Kyuubi22 2 years ago
Then post your teams
Posted by yomama12 2 years ago
and we are using are ACTUAL teams, no dream teams, srry...
Posted by yomama12 2 years ago
actually... therer are legendaries, since half of my team is basd of them...
Posted by yomama12 2 years ago
btw, we are using pokemon teams from pokemon x/y
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Vote Placed by Blade-of-Truth 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Conduct - Pro. Con forfeited R3, 4, & 5. This is rarely acceptable conduct in any debate setting. Because of this, Con lost points for conduct. S & G - Tie. Neither made any major grammatical or spelling errors, this is a tie. Arguments - Pro. By expanding on his team, and providing a scenario in which his team would beat the chosen team of Pokemon for Con, he successfully upheld his BOP in relation to the resolution. Con actually had a great team starting to form and I would personally say that those dark and fire moves would have made short-work of your physic team if I had been in this one haha. Since Pro's team was shown how it can win though, he is awarded arg. points. Sources - Tie. Both included a source at one point to strengthen their contentions. Because of this, I will leave this tied.