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Why Do Atheists Celebrate Christmas?

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 2/22/2011 Category: Religion
Updated: 5 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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whatup5656

Con

If Atheists are so gun ho about not believe in God. Why is it that they celebrate a day or week devoted to a Christian man? Its like a Christian celebrating Hanukkah for all the wrong reasons.

Having an Atheists celebrating Christmas goes against all true values of Atheism and the true values of Christmas.

So how do Atheists justify celebrating Christmas besides of the fact of "getting presents" or receiving the week off from work? Do people of the United States not believe in traditions anymore?
Suitecake

Pro

Since there was no explicit resolution named, resulting in two sides, I will propose the following as our resolution:

It is reasonable and consistent for a typical atheist to celebrate Christmas.

To begin my argument, I will offer a distinction between two forms of celebrating Christmas.

The first form involves a religious celebration of Christmas, typically involving observance of Advent, and reflecting upon the introduction of Jesus Christ into the world. Typical emphases involve the incarnation, the goodness of God, his love for us (in extending himself into a human body), and the central celebration of salvation. This form cannot be celebrated by a typical atheist, as it requires a belief in God.

The second form involves a participation in the cultural institution of Christmas, that event that is marked by gifts, music, cheesy movies, and family get-togethers. It is a clear and undeniable fact that secular Christmas is significant in our culture, and that this event is only partially married to the religious celebration of Christmas. Nothing in the set described above (gifts, music, cheesy movies, and family get-togethers) negates what it is to be an atheist.

The first form, insofar as it is based upon a belief in God, is not consistent with atheism, the lack of a belief in God. The second form, however, has no such belief requirement, and is merely a traditional celebration, as is Thanksgiving.
Debate Round No. 1
whatup5656

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Suitecake

Pro

Extend my arguments (or rather, explanation) from above; it unfortunately looks as though my opponent's account is no longer active.
Debate Round No. 2
whatup5656

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whatup5656 forfeited this round.
Suitecake

Pro

Extend, as above.
Debate Round No. 3
whatup5656

Con

whatup5656 forfeited this round.
Suitecake

Pro

Eric Idle on Christmas
Debate Round No. 4
whatup5656

Con

whatup5656 forfeited this round.
Suitecake

Pro

excelsior
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Suitecake 6 years ago
Suitecake
Gracias, I'll do that.
Posted by Puck 6 years ago
Puck
Yeah, fairly silly misconception.

Post debate here when it finishes, assuming the account isn't reactivated: http://www.debate.org...
Posted by Suitecake 6 years ago
Suitecake
Didn't see that one coming. Wasn't much of a debate topic anyway.
Posted by Puck 6 years ago
Puck
"whatup5656's account is no longer active."

Ah well.
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Reasons for voting decision: Conduct lost for forfeiting. Pro's reason's were sound and went unanswered. Pro might have pointed out that most Christians celebrate Halloween.
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Reasons for voting decision: Why even start a debate if you're not going to do it...