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Ceaser_6.0
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Why did God(Christen) create Homosexuals, and Bisexuals

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Started: 2/26/2016 Category: Religion
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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TheNextDaVinci

Con

Why did God(Christen) create Homosexuals, and Bisexuals , if he disregards them from showing their expression of love, and why would he create something he hated form the very birth of it.
Ceaser_6.0

Pro

That depends on your interpretation. If Jesus is god, and God is Jesus than God must not hate them as Jesus loves and forgives. Buts that's going by a many year old book. As of now you can't know if he changed his mind or not. The ten commandments were supposedly sent down in ancient Egypt. There are no direct records of homosexual behavior. So he could have changed his mind. As we can't ask God right now.

Also there are diet principles which say god is not active in our universe. So he couldn't create them.
Debate Round No. 1
TheNextDaVinci

Con

God is very active in our universe, by saying that he is not, you are contradicting everything you believe in as a believer of Christ, he is active in everyone, he is the all powerful, he is the creator of me, and you, and with regards with saying that there are no scriptures saying anything about Homosexuals, you are completely wrong, even though, Jesus never did touch on the topic.
Ceaser_6.0

Pro

http://epistle.us... Notice how this is speculated and some of it might not have been true as there was no actual direct evidence but stories. Now claiming to own how i believe in my god is wrong. Just because i believe in diest principles doesn't make me a non christian but a different from you christian. CHRISTIAN. that's how you spell it by the way. Someone who doesn't know how to spell a religion should not be able to define it to another. Also i never said i was a christian.
And like philochristos said, this isn't really a debate but a question. You didn't state your belief in round one and you haven't in round two so i have nothing to rebut. Can you prove he is active in our universe with logical, factual proof. Not someone saying they saw him because tthe might have not if they were lying.
https://www.gaychristian.net... Someone saying how god might not care about homosexuality.
Debate Round No. 2
TheNextDaVinci

Con

Well first off you spell "THEY" with one "t" and with a "y" at the end of it, not "tthe". Anyone that can't spell "they" shouldn't be allowed out of grade 1, let alone trying to per sway someone's beliefs their views, in any debate really. I have never met someone who is so incompetent of even spelling "they".

My opponent has made remarks of why should you believe anyone that claims to have bare witness to God, because they could be lying about it. My question to you is, have can you believe anyone? about anything? How do you KNOW that they are not LYING? everything you have ever been told by someone else could be incorrect. The way i look at how i can determine if someone is telling the truth is based on motive. For example with the disciples, the reasoning behind believing them is "Why?". Why would they go spread the word of the Lord? And for what reward? It wasn't a popular thing to do, they faced threats, right from the beginning, and in the end, all died in very painful ways. So unless, you truly believed that Jesus was the savoir, why would you go through all that pain, and suffering, with no popularity being won either.

So how do you know your sources are not "LYING" to you? What is your proof?
Ceaser_6.0

Pro

Ceaser_6.0 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
TheNextDaVinci

Con

TheNextDaVinci forfeited this round.
Ceaser_6.0

Pro

Ceaser_6.0 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by Longline 1 year ago
Longline
so gay people will continue to be among us, until the end.
Posted by Longline 1 year ago
Longline
@POPOO5560 roman 1:22-26 is very easy to understand. However let me start to say i am a Jehovah's Witness. we study the Bible in detail and we meditate on it. so to have the most clarity of it's comprehension.

These people that are doing the things in this very chapter are not Christians. But used to know God, or you might say used to be christian.
If you read from 18-19 this is what it said.
(18 For God"s wrath+ is being revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who are suppressing the truth+ in an unrighteous way, 19 because what may be known about God is clearly evident among them, for God made it clear to them.)

They knew exactly who God was, but they wanted to do what was evil.

People who have turn away from God. and doing ungodly things. They knew who God is, but choice to turn away from him because they want to do evil things.

As you read on.

(20 For his invisible qualities are clearly seen from the world"s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made,+ even his eternal power+ and Godship,+ so that they are inexcusable. 21 For although they knew God, they did not glorify him as God nor did they thank him, but they became empty-headed in their reasoning and their senseless hearts became darkened)

Now here is where people get confuse. God did not create homosexual people, but people became homosexual.
(22 Although claiming they were wise, they became foolish 23 and turned the glory of the incorruptible God into something like the image of corruptible man and birds and four-footed creatures and reptiles)

(24 Therefore, God, in keeping with the desires of their hearts, gave them up to uncleanness, so that their bodies might be dishonored among them. 25 They exchanged the truth of God for the lie and venerated* and rendered sacred service to the creation rather than the Creator, who is praised forever. Amen.)
Posted by WhineyMagiciann5 1 year ago
WhineyMagiciann5
pro never said he was a believer of god. so that statement is round 2 of yours con is kind of unnecessary.
Posted by jglass841 1 year ago
jglass841
This is a contradiction in the Christian bible. Also, God is not active in the universe. You cannot even prove that he exists, so how do you know that he hates homosexuals?
Posted by philochristos 1 year ago
philochristos
This debate doesn't even have a resolution. The question isn't even in the form of a "yes" or "no" question, so how can there be a Pro and a Con?
Posted by POPOO5560 1 year ago
POPOO5560
verse 27 keep reading...
In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
Posted by POPOO5560 1 year ago
POPOO5560
u have direct answer from the bible

romans 1:22-26 :

Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools
and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.
Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.
They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator--who is forever praised. Amen.
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.

never i have seen christians quoting this one bcz they know they r the guilty they r the ones making Jesus a man into a God.
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