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mariahsaywhaaa
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uiop
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Why shouldn't gay marriage be legal

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Started: 1/20/2008 Category: Society
Updated: 6 years ago Status: Voting Period
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mariahsaywhaaa

Pro

Gay marriage should be legal, since when does anyone get off by being able
to tell someone else how to live there life. If we claim we have equal rights then we should practice what we preach and allow same sex marriage. How would allowing two people weather they be the same sex or not get married affect the whole world? In reality it should only affect that couple, and everyone else should mind there own business.
uiop

Con

IT SHOULD NOT BECAUSE THIS NATION IS UNDER GOD AND HAS TO ABIDE BY GOD LAWS
AND THE BIBLE SAY BE FRUITFUL AND MULTIPLY THATS COMMON SENSE THATS LIKE BRINGING A MORE SINFUL NATURE TO THE WORLD ( NOW DO YOU REALLY THINK ?) YOU DECIDE
Debate Round No. 1
mariahsaywhaaa

Pro

"be fruitful and multiply" although same sex couples may not be able to actually conceive and give birth to a baby, they are completely capable of
adopting a baby in need of a home or having a woman carrie one for them with artificial insemination.

and just because our nation observes religion doesn't mean it's law. the bible says something about not killing and we have violent wars and the death penalty.

and supposedly your "god" loves everyone right?! well the whats so different between homosexuals and you and i.
uiop

Con

your right about not killing and its wrong too the bible also says judge not and you cant say that your country doesn't have people who kill other people and your comment and be fruitful and multiply makes no sense because you said " just because your nation observes religion it doesn't make it a law" NOT IF YOU BELIVE IN GOD. "GOD IS THE LAW" JUST LIKE IN YOUR EVERY DAY LIFE YOU JUDGE PEOPLE JUST LIKE PEOPLE GET SENT TO JAIL AND HAVE TO GET LETHAL INJECTION ahhhhhh duh ( the bible says you should not kill either so you think about it next time you hear off a judge making person DIE just because THE GOVENMENT SAYS SO SINCE WHEN DID THEY BECOME MORE PRIVILEGD . iF THIS NATION IS UNDER GOD THEN IT SHOULD ABIDE BY GODS RULES.

THANK YOU
Debate Round No. 2
mariahsaywhaaa

Pro

First of all i would like to nicely ask for you to review
your post before you post it because it's kind of hard for me
to read and im not really sure what exactly you were saying.

I think that maybe this debate isn't going to work out
very well because no matter what i say your going to say
"god is law". Im not completely sure what the bible
says about homosexuals word from word. But i don't think
and im not sure about this but i don't think that it says
being with the same sex is sin?

Correct me if im wrong please.

I really don't understand as to why someone else
being gay would affect anyone else but them?!
That is there own decision and they should get
the same rights that anyone else should get.
If they want to get married and adopt a baby then
they should be able to, but like i said i already
know what your response is going to be and thats going
to be "god is law".
So like i said im not really sure how to go
on with this debate.
uiop

Con

A sin is anything wrong or that is not pleasing in gods eyesight ok God does love every one. Did he not make adam and eve or adam and steve it takes a woman to produce a child not a man thats why he did not make two men because they were not capable of producing a child. Its still Gods law no matter how you put it i cant begin to tell you that homosexuals have a huge affect on alot of people and if your not sure read THE FIRST OF THE BIBLE PAGE AND IT TELLS YOU BE FRUITFUL AND MULTIPLY AND THATS IT MY NOT SEEM SO WRONG BUT WHEN YOU PUT IN THE WORLDS EYES BUT IN GODS EYESIGHT A SIN IS ASIN AND HE LOVES EVERY HE DOESENT LIKE THE SIN BUT HE LOVES THE PERSON NOTHINGS WRONG WITH HOMOSEXUALS ITS THE SIN THAT THERE DOING THAT IS WRONG
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by mariahsaywhaaa 6 years ago
mariahsaywhaaa
this debate caused so many more, haha
it's really nice to see all you guys getting
into this topic.
Posted by Tatarize 6 years ago
Tatarize
Hm. That's not a comforting answer.
Posted by bobsatthepub 6 years ago
bobsatthepub
"So, if you're so smart, what can homophobes do to change homosexuals from being who they are?"

Live a hundred years for when the technology is readily available and effective and then continue to treat them like abominations of nature till they crack and go seek that technology.

Who knows, maybe in a hundred years you might master the skill of tolerance and acceptance and forget all about it.
Posted by Tatarize 6 years ago
Tatarize
You know, for claiming to never want to engage with me, you seem to pop up a lot when I talk to other people.

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Posted by Renzzy 6 years ago
Renzzy
Are you asking me that question, or Bobsatthepub?
Posted by Tatarize 6 years ago
Tatarize
Bobsatthepub, is disagreeing with them going to make them straight? Renzzy has that covered and certainly there's some many matters of fact to disagree with.

Hating doesn't work. Disagreeing is ineffective. Discouraging might not be the golden ticket either.

So, if you're so smart, what can homophobes do to change homosexuals from being who they are?
Posted by bobsatthepub 6 years ago
bobsatthepub
"I think it is something that should be discouraged. Allowing marriage condones homosexuality. "

I'm going to be perfectly honest with you, I have no idea how to reply to something like that. Discouraging homosexuality isn't going to make people straight.

"Getting back to the original question, would there be marriage without religion?"
Probably not, but is marriage really about religion anymore? I just honestly think you people worry way to much about something that shouldn't be your concern. Times are changing, we are becoming more intelligent and developing a better understanding of the world. It's time to accept change and realize that not everybody is going to mold their lifestyle to fit your perfect world.
Posted by Renzzy 6 years ago
Renzzy
Luke 10:27-37---

27He answered: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind'[a]; and, 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'[b]"

28"You have answered correctly," Jesus replied. "Do this and you will live."

29But he wanted to justify himself, so he asked Jesus, "And who is my neighbor?"

30In reply Jesus said: "A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he fell into the hands of robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead. 31A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side. 32So too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. 33But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him. 34He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, took him to an inn and took care of him. 35The next day he took out two silver coins[c] and gave them to the innkeeper. 'Look after him,' he said, 'and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.'

36"Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?"

37The expert in the law replied, "The one who had mercy on him."
Jesus told him, "Go and do likewise."
Posted by Tatarize 6 years ago
Tatarize
Glad to see "brother" is literal, is neighbor also only literal? Can I covet my neighbor's neighbor's slave?

Though, again, you're wrong and your position is exactly as stupid as hating gays for being gay.

Also you're stupid for believing in God.
*sticks tongue out*
Posted by Renzzy 6 years ago
Renzzy
"Also, calling me a fool puts you in danger of hellfire no (Matthew 5:22)?"

No, because it says that he who calls his BROTHER a fool is in danger of the fires of hell. You are neither a brother by family relation nor a brother in Christ. Also, Jesus Himself calls people fools when they talk as such. What I said was not a character attack, but more a reference to the way you are responding to me. You are talking like a foolish person talks. I do not know you personally, so I could make a character judgement if I wanted to.

"Proverbs 26:4, but what about Proverbs 26:5?

26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.

(Yes, the Bible has two directly contradictory verses right next to each other)."

This is not a contradiction, as it would appear. It is a dilemma. Verse 4 says that you cannot answer a fool in the way he speaks to you, because you will be a fool like him. however, you must answer him, because if you do not, he will "be wise in his own conceit.". It is simply saying that you cannot answer a fool according to his folly, because you will always lose.
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Reasons for voting decision: its not a choice or a lifestyle its not an option either its just the way homosexuals are born
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