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ftripier
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Spritle
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Will Smith (as his health stands at the moment of this posting) could defeat a 170 lb. Gray Wolf

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 10/7/2011 Category: Sports
Updated: 5 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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ftripier

Con

If Will Smith (as his health stands at the moment of this posting), were to encounter a hungry 170 lb. wolf, he would be unable to defeat it unarmed. A Gray Wolf of that size already outweighs Mr.Smith, and is endowed with a much greater stamina, savagery, and strength than the A-list celebrity. Furthermore, a wolf is a creature optimized by the pressures of natural selection to fullfil the needs of a prerdatory niche- it is weaponized with both claws and fangs. Will Smith has naught but his charisma, dazzling smile, and admittedly diverse and emotionally complex acting range.
Spritle

Pro

I accept my opponent's challenge. I wish him luck in our debate!

I am taking the side that says that Will Smith could defeat a gray wolf in his current health. I am assuming that he encountered a male wolf in Yellowstone National Park since no place or gender was specified. I am also assuming that it is a 1v1 encounter and that no other wolves are going to be present.

In this first round I will be showing the average health and abilities of a gray wolf. (I would have added the health and abilities of Will Smith as well but I ran out of characters!)

Gray wolf:

Wolves are very strong for their size, possessing sufficient strength to turn over a frozen horse or moose carcass. They are also capable of running at speeds of 34–38 miles per hour, and can continue running for more than 20 minutes, though not necessarily at top speed. Adult wolves are normally 41–63 in. in length. North American wolves have been weighed at 79-130 lbs. on average. Their sense of smell is relatively weak when compared to that of some hunting dog breeds. Their hearing is sharp enough to register the fall of leaves in the autumn period. Their eyesight is not as powerful as that of dogs, though their night vision is excellent. When hunting, wolves will attempt to conceal themselves as they approach their prey. If the targeted animal stands its ground, the wolves either ignore it, or try to intimidate it into running. With larger animals the chase is prolonged in order to wear the selected prey out. Wolves usually give up chases up to 1.3 miles. Wolves almost never attack humans. In North America, no human has ever been killed by a healthy gray wolf.

Sources:

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org...
[2] http://www.defenders.org...
[3] http://kids.nationalgeographic.com...
[4] http://www.nwf.org...
Debate Round No. 1
ftripier

Con

I should clarify that the framework of the debate is such that acting legend Will Smith is pitted in mortal combat against a wolf. This is not a manner of "would such a situation arise in the first place".

That being said, I will set out to prove that even such a prime example of the human species would fare dismally against a gray wolf. Even though, as my opponent pointed out, there exist few precedents for the Wolf v. Human encounter, there are many examples of humans being attacked and killed by attack dogs of the same (or lesser) size as the theoretical wolf (http://www.cdc.gov...)/ (http://en.wikipedia.org...) ().

I will lend my opponent that Will Smith is a man possessed of incredible agility and good looks (and let's not forget his unbelievable acting talent () or his mastery of the sonic arts ()), but given the depressingly low survival rates of the average man against a full fledged canine assault, I would think that even such a paragon as Mr.Smith would be hard-pressed to defeat the much more savage wolf.

To support this case I will offer a personal anecdote:

"Tripier men live by the axe and die by the fang" spoke my father threw thin, unsmiling lips "Today you become a man". As tradition dictated, I was given a small silver axe, and left to lie in wait in the woodlands of the Appalaichian foothills with my father, the eldest and mightiest warrior of my tribe.

As soon as I saw the grey lightning, I knew a man would die that day. The beast tore into my father and seized his heart in it's yellowed fangs. I ran through the white ash forest, my face of mask of tears and snot.

"Run, fool!" my father had bellowed in his last breaths "The gray shadow cannot be defeated. This is the lesson you must learn to become a man".

I came out of those woods an orphan. An orphan man.
Spritle

Pro

Could my opponent please post the source of the anecdote?

I will start off this round by saying that there have only been a few recorded instances of a wolf being 170 pounds or over. This is to clarify that Will Smith could easily out weigh a gray wolf. Therefore, the author's idea of the wolf outweighing Smith is a rarity.

Secondly, my opponent speaks of the greater casualties from dog attacks coming from "attack dogs" of equal or lesser size than a gray wolf. Notice that my opponent used "attack dogs" and not regular dogs.

Definition of ATTACK DOG: [1]
1: a dog trained to attack on command or on sight
2: a person noted for harsh, personal, and usually public verbal attacks against others

My opponent confidently stated that there have been "...many examples of humans being attacked and killed by attack dogs...." He is correct. But wolves and attack dogs are completely different. Attack dogs, as the definition says, are trained specifically for the purpose of attacking and, if need be, killing. Dogs are domesticated animals and are used to humans. Wolves, on the other hand, are not as familiar with being around humans and rarely do interact with humans. Unfamiliarity causes fear. [2] Think of yourself in a new job, or for a better example, a dog in the vet's office. The dog is going to show curiosity, fear, and maybe some skittishness.

In my opponents anecdote, he shows that the author of the story ESCAPED the wolf and lived to become an "orphan man." Why did the wolf not kill this man? The wolf could have easily chased and struck down this man just as it did to his warrior father. The answer is simple. The wolf did not want to engage in a chase.

As my opponent has stated in his argument, he refers to Will Smith as possessing "incredible agility" and "...charisma...." (Next round)

[1] http://www.merriam-webster.com...
[2] http://ezinearticles.com...
Debate Round No. 2
ftripier

Con

ftripier forfeited this round.
Spritle

Pro

I extend my argument. I just had to wait 3 days... It was awesome.
Debate Round No. 3
ftripier

Con

ftripier forfeited this round.
Spritle

Pro

Will Smith just has to outrun the wolf. Case closed.
Debate Round No. 4
ftripier

Con

ftripier forfeited this round.
Spritle

Pro

Disappointing....

Vote for me or I will cry. :)
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by Maikuru 5 years ago
Maikuru
Shame. I love resolutions like this.
Posted by Spritle 5 years ago
Spritle
Yeah I know! I was soo bummed when I found out I couldn't write anymore!
Posted by GrizzlyAdamz 5 years ago
GrizzlyAdamz
Aww, why the character limit?
Posted by Maikuru 5 years ago
Maikuru
Reminds me of a great old debate between two heavyweights. Add some details about the circumstances (e.g. location, time limit), and I would jump all over this.

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Posted by Crede 5 years ago
Crede
Random, i love it.
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Vote Placed by Maikuru 5 years ago
Maikuru
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Reasons for voting decision: Multiple forfeits by Con.
Vote Placed by F-16_Fighting_Falcon 5 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Couldn't be more obvious.