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reddogs
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Ash_RationalTheist
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Will Sunday worship be the downfall of many Christians.

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Started: 1/21/2017 Category: Religion
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reddogs

Pro

Since the scriptures are clear that no other day was made as the day of worship except the seventh day, and the Commandments show this with unblinking clarity to Christians. If they are fully aware that Sunday worship is not ordained by God or anywhere in the Bible or given by Christ or the apostles, and with full knowledge continue to transgress what is shown to them from scripture, will God wink at it, lets look at scripture......

Acts 17:30
And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

It shows that God allows for mankinds ignorance, but we have Christians who are aware of the history of Sunday worship. Sunday was the established day of festival, a pagan day to the gods in the pagan world. Later, when these pagans professed Christianity, they gradually brought the practice of the pagan festivals on Sunday with them into the church, and the bishops looked the other way as long as they had 'converts' to show they were more influential or had more numbers than other bishops.

Now from scripture we see the people of the Bible, from Genesis to Revelation, including Jesus Christ Himself (e.g. Luke 4:16), observed the Sabbath. No where in the Bible, including after Christ's resurrection, will you find people observing the first day of the week, Sunday, as a replacement for the Sabbath.

Now, lets take a closer look at transgression, or what is inquity or sin, from scripture.

1 John 3:4
Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

If we look it is any thought, word or action, omission or desire, contrary to the law of God.(Rom.8:3) Sin in us has been condemned, thus when we come humbly to God and confess our wrong doing in repentance, the Father forgives and justifies us of all sin, which are the acts committed against His Law. So what does Gods Law written with His own finger say:
"8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it." Exodus 20:8-11 (KJV)

And Christ Himself declares...

"And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments." Matthew 19:17

If we choose to deny the sacrifice of Christ and continue to transgress Gods Law, and live knowingly in sin, there will be consequences. Jeremiah 5:25 says,"Your iniquities have turned away these things, and your sins have withholden good things from you."

So from scripture we can see that iniquity and sin really puts us in the domain of evil and the blessings of the Lord are withheld from us. We can see the consequences of iniquity all over the Bible, when Cain held on to the evil thoughts and we know the results, and when jealousy over a coat caused brothers to try to kill and they sell their own flesh and blood, and Judas selling out for 30 pieces of silver. The Bible is full of examples of people holding on to iniquity instead of trusting in the Creator, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the great I AM, writer of the Law, Lord of the Sabbath, Christ our Lord, and the truth he brings.

But then if Christians stay with sin and iniquity, and knowingly continue in transgression and do not come humbly before God and admit and confess/repent the sin, but with full knowledge of it, hold on to it and do no let it go, what does Christ say to them.

Matthew 7:22-23 (KJV)

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

So if Christians, knowing that Sunday is not the Sabbath, and knowing the Commandments show what is transgression or iniquity/sin, and clearly show what day is the Sabbath, continue to transgress what God commands, what will happen to them when Christ comes...
Ash_RationalTheist

Con

Thank you Pro for setting up this debate.

I fail to comprehend (forget Sunday) why worship can lead to downfall?

I want to remind Jesus' words "Judge not or thy shall be judged".
We are not engaging in Terrorist activities, we are just praying, spending our Holiday in the House of our beloved, and deepening our connection with the Holy Spirit.

Pro's arguments taints God's character, using Biblical passages to make God appear non reciprocating and vile(what else to call someone who brings downfall to his devotees). This is untenable.

Even I can quote verses from the Bible supporting incest, misogyny etc. but that does not make them relevant.

Pro seems to be forgetting "God Loves You"
Read John 3:16. Everything will be fine when Chris comes.

Hallelujah! Vote Con.
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Posted by dsjpk5 11 months ago
dsjpk5
I have an alternative question.... Will reddog ever finish a debate?
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