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Women are better in business industry than men

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Started: 5/27/2013 Category: Education
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nargiz_gab

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Throughout history, women have been seen as inferior than men. Their potential and capacity has been overlooked, but today, the female force is breaking the stereotypes.
In a world"s society, people tend to think that women should stay home, raise kids, and do house work. The problems that women face today are the same that they have faced for hundreds of years, but the only difference is that now they have the power to do something about it. "Women have always been dynamic, and they"ve always been in business", declared Nancy Koehn. (February 11, 2002) Although women weren"t always considered equal socially or economically to men, positive progress has been made in availability of education which had a direct reaction on women"s roles in business. In the past, women have had fewer career opportunities and legal rights than men. But it doesn"t mean that they didn"t work hard. In the 17th century the great majority of women had to work in the fields alongside men, and when the Industrial Revolution came along, they had to work in factories. Traditionally, a middle-class girl in Western culture tended to learn from her mother's example that cooking, cleaning, and caring for children was the behavior expected of her when she grew up. During the middle ages, Saxon women were allowed to own and inherit property and to make contracts. However, most Saxon women had to work as hard as men did. They were spinning and weaving, preparing food and drink and performing other tasks. They also spun wood, cooked, cleaned, washed clothes, fed animals, baked breads, and collected firewood. In the 16th and 17th centuries, the professions teacher, lawyer, and doctor were closed to women. However, some women had jobs. Some of them worked spinning cloth. Women were also milliners, dyers, shoemakers and embroiderers. Some of the women worked in a bakery, some sold food in the streets. A very common job was a domestic servant. Wives were supportive to their husbands; most of the men could not run their business or farm without their wife"s help and advice on finances and management. (Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia, 1994-1995) During the 18th century, women were gradually squeezed out of certain jobs such as barber-surgeon. Increasingly a well off woman's place was in the home. Girls from well off families went to school but it was felt important for them to learn k7;'accomplishments' like embroidery and music rather than academic subjects. In colonial America, girls could attend the master's schools for boys when there was room, usually during the summer when most of the boys were working. By the end of the 19th century, however, the number of women students had increased greatly. Higher education particularly was broadened by the rise of women's colleges and the admission of women to regular colleges and universities. In 1870 an estimated one fifth of resident college and university students were women. By 1900 the proportion had increased to more than one third. Women obtained 19 percent of all undergraduate college degrees around the beginning of the 20th century. In the late 1980s more than twice as many women as men taught in elementary and high schools. In higher education, however, women held only about one third of the teaching positions, concentrated in such fields as education, social service, home economics, nursing, and library science. A small proportion of Women College and university teachers were in the physical sciences, engineering, agriculture, and law. The great majority of women who work are still employed in clerical positions, factory work, retail sales, and service jobs. Secretaries, bookkeepers, and typists account for a large portion of women clerical workers. Women in factories often work as machine operators, assemblers, and inspectors. Many women in service jobs work as waitresses, cooks, hospital attendants, cleaning women, and hairdressers. During the World War II many women were served in Army. (Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia, 1994-1995) In Soviet Union all of the people were involved in a labor. But in 20th century women in most nations won the right to vote and increased their opportunities to have jobs and education. They have accomplished a reevaluation of traditional views of their role in society.
Fictional_Truths1

Con

1. Women have been considered inferior for a long time
Your point? This has nothing to do with quality, efficiency, or productivity in the business industry. It's a moot point. It's completely irrelevant. Are we supposed to just say "women are now superior to men" as penance for calling them inferior? Your basically trying to say reversing sexism on men, even if it's completely inaccurate, must be done just because of this. That notion is completely absurd. If we want to make social progress, we cannot focus on petty revenge.

2. Women now have the power to stop being called inferior, as opposed to a few hundred years ago.
Again, what does this have to do with the business industry at all? All this is is one example of good social progress. It has nothing to do with whether or not woman are better at making profits in a business environment.

3. In one culture, the Saxons, women had rights and worked just as hard as men.
Again, relevancy? This means that they were EQUALS to men, not superiors. Even if they were superiors, by that logic, since men were superiors in every other culture, that means that men must be superior now. I guess just because white people were considered superior at one point we're still superior now. Wait, isn't that a contradiction to what you said earlier, about how woman have been oppressed, so they must be better now? This is a blatant contradiction, and blatant contradictions are usually signs that you do not know what you are talking about.

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Now that I'm done with the rebuttal, let me make some points on my own

1. Their is no evidence that woman are superior
No matter how upset people are about how woman were considered inferior in the past, their is just no evidence that they are superior, especially in business. Woman have primarily had labor jobs in the past, which does not correlate to business management, marketing, or investment skills in the slightest. Not only that, but their are more men than women in business, so there is no way to compare apples to apples. The only way to make a somewhat fair study is if magically half of all corporations were owned by women and the other half by men. While this is almost completely impossible, even if it did somehow happen, their are hundreds of other factors to consider, such as supply and demand, what they're selling, who they're selling it to, the general state of the economy, etc. You just can't make a fair study. This is an unfalsifiable conclusion.

2. Biology is against women.
Unfortunately, biology is not in women's favor when it comes to business. Their are unfair stereotypes about women, but some things are indisputable facts. Women are the only gender that get pregnant, when women are pregnant they experience pain, mood swings, and strange food cravings, which contribute to unproductively. Women are usually in this state of unproductively for 8-10 months, in which time something vitally important could go wrong and they wouldn't be up to the task of fixing it. Also, (most) women have menstrual periods, which you can count on every month. Unfortunately, these periods distract women, make them have to potentially take more breaks, put them in a mood of irritability, give them increased sexual desire, and somewhat erratic food cravings. These bad but inevitable symptoms drastically reduce efficiency and decision making skills.

3. Illusions of better marketing ability
When women run cosmetic and fashion companies as opposed to men, they are generally better at making sales. This is not because women are somehow better at business in general. You'll find that most beer commercials are narrated by men, as well as radio shows, sports commercials, BBQ commercials, etc. A woman is just better at convincing another woman to buy a certain product, just like men are better at convincing men to buy certain products as well.

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Debate Round No. 1
nargiz_gab

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Debate Round No. 2
nargiz_gab

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