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2013WeSurvived
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Maikuru
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24 Points

Women can do ANYTHING men can do

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Maikuru
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 11/23/2011 Category: Society
Updated: 5 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 7,013 times Debate No: 19446
Debate Rounds (5)
Comments (17)
Votes (5)

 

2013WeSurvived

Pro

My opponent will have to explain why women can't do everything men can do (good luck)
Maikuru

Con

I thank my opponent for starting this debate and I look forward to a lively discussion.

Introductions

In this debate, it is my opponent's burden to prove that women can do anything a man can do. It is naturally my burden to prove that there is at least one thing a man can do that a woman cannot. We will be discussing the matter in the strictest terms and presenting good faith arguments. No shenanigans, please.

As this entire discussion centers on discerning differences, it is absolutely necessary that the following terms be defined:

- Male: pertaining to the sex that produces sperm cells and fertilizes the female egg to beget offspring [1]

- Female: an individual organism of the sex that bears young or produces ova or eggs [2]

- Can: to be able to; have the ability, power, or skill to [3]

Opening Argument

Being of sound mind and having been raised in a relatively socially conscience environment, I believe men and women are generally equivalent and should be treated as such. Of course, men and women are not identical and thus necessarily possess different attributes, accesses, and limitations. As far as I am aware, women (currently) do not possess the physical material or social permission to perform the following tasks:
  • Have a vasectomy [4]
  • Have a prostate exam [5][6]
  • Produce sperm naturally [7]
  • Legally engage in front-line combat for the US military [8]
  • Vote in certain countries [9]
  • Enroll as students at certain men-only colleges [10]

Each of the tasks above can be performed by men but not women. We have 5 rounds to discuss this topic, so I will leave it at that. I may add additional arguments and elucidations as necessary.

References

1. http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com...
2. http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com...
3. http://dictionary.reference.com...
4. http://www.webmd.com...
5. http://menshealth.about.com...
6. http://men.webmd.com...
7. http://www.netdoctor.co.uk...
8. http://www.msnbc.msn.com...
9. http://e.wisegeek.com...
10. http://en.wikipedia.org...
Debate Round No. 1
2013WeSurvived

Pro

Why did you mention protate exams? When I said that women can do anytihng man can do, you knew what I meant, you troll! And, women DO have the ability to be in front-line combat for the US Army! Women's rights have been going on for God knows how long, and women have been ganing rights since 622. But, The world still sees the stereotype of women staying at home & taking care of the kids. Women are 102% equal to men
Maikuru

Con

Thanks to Pro for her prompt reply.

Misinterpretation?

Pro finds my opening argument misleading. Allow me to reiterate my opponent's entire Round 1 argument:

"My opponent will have to explain why women can't do everything men can do (good luck)"

Given Pro's all-encompassing position, my list of physical, social, and legal differences between men and women negate the resolution. Had Pro wished to discuss only certain issues, perhaps earlier clarification, sources, or a second sentence may have been appropriate.

Women in the Military

Pro claims women have the ability to fight on the front lines in the US military. However, my point was that they cannot yet do so legally. I ask my opponent to present sourced arguments to the contrary.

Closing

Men and women are not perfectly identical (thank God). Pro is well aware of this and thus completely ignores most of my points. I understand and appreciate the ongoing battle for gender equality but that is irrelevant here. My arguments extend.
Debate Round No. 2
2013WeSurvived

Pro

You mad, bro?
Maikuru

Con

My arguments extend.

Debate Round No. 3
2013WeSurvived

Pro

2013WeSurvived forfeited this round.
Maikuru

Con



My arguments extend.
Debate Round No. 4
2013WeSurvived

Pro

2013WeSurvived forfeited this round.
Maikuru

Con

I'm not saying women are unable to finish debates but my opponent isn't doing much for that case, either.

Anyway, here's an amazing song about women. They've got that going for them.

Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by tulle 2 years ago
tulle
"Why did you mention protate exams? When I said that women can do anytihng man can do, you knew what I meant, you troll!"

I lol'd so hard. I think I'm going to call you a troll in bed from now on lmfao
Posted by emospongebob527 4 years ago
emospongebob527
"I'm not saying women are unable to finish debates but my opponent isn't doing much for that case, either."

Here's a reference:

http://www.debate.org...
Posted by Maikuru 5 years ago
Maikuru
Blame Pro for not arguing the sperm and prostate arguments.
Posted by imabench 5 years ago
imabench
I would have loved to see the con use really crude examples for his argument, like anything with masturbation just for laughs, but thats just me.
Posted by Reid 5 years ago
Reid
If pro clarified the topic more clearly, this would have been good.
Posted by Chrysippus 5 years ago
Chrysippus
So that is how one extends this out over five rounds.

This was a Godot debate: lots of waiting around for nothing to happen.
Posted by drafterman 5 years ago
drafterman
If they're better, then they aren't equal.
Posted by kyro90 5 years ago
kyro90
I completely agree that woman can do/are equal to men.. In fact, I personally think that being a woman is better than being a man.
Posted by PeacefulChaos 5 years ago
PeacefulChaos
lol, I like Renji's principle. I think I'll use it in every debate :D
Posted by drafterman 5 years ago
drafterman
"Ignoring the obvious facts that they cant enroll in "men-only colleges" and anatomy topics, Women can do anything men can do"

I'm going to generalize this:

"Ignoring everything that could refute my resolution, my resolution is true."

Thank you. I will call this Renji's Principle.
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Vote Placed by Chrysippus 5 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro had no answer when the obvious was pointed out. The resolution of this debate is virtually impossible to defend as stated; Con is not a troll for making the only reasonable answer to this ridiculous premise.
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Reasons for voting decision: Kinda obvious why CON won.
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Reasons for voting decision: Even though pro forfited, I think I still agree..
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Reasons for voting decision: lol