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Women's Place in the Church

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Started: 2/24/2011 Category: Religion
Updated: 6 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Em4getmenot

Pro

Where did biases against women come from? References are made all the way back to the book of the Corinthians. But the placement of women in their nurturing was not originated from God, but by man for that is who tells the stories in the Bible. Women are not obligated to serve men according to God, but solely according to men. Mary birthed Jesus, but did God ever tell her that not to speak of his miracles? No, he did not. God intended for women to be equal to man in home and in church.
Zetsubou

Con

Sorry, I forgot about a paper I had, and spent most of my weekend on it.

God intended for women to be equal to man in home and in church (Me as Con)

Textual proofs:
22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
Ephesians 5:22-24

7 Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives, and treat them with respect as the weaker partner and as heirs with you of the gracious gift of life, so that nothing will hinder your prayers.
Peter I 3:7

11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. 15 But women will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.
Timothy I 2

http://www.biblegateway.com...
Such is the world of Jesus Christ as told to the disciples. Thanks be to God.

The church and is still causing discrimination towards women (Me as Pro)
> Women cannot be ordained as ministers, priests or pastor in most of the world.
> The Roman Catholic Church, Muscovite Orthodox Church and the Coptic Church of Alexandra don’t allow women to become presents or position in the church(Sisters are independent of the Church hierarchy).
> The Anglican and Lutheran(+Baptists?) Church does not allow women to ascend beyond the level of priest/mother.
> Mormons and Armish - need more be said.
> Christian organizations writ large have generally opposed all three of the feminist movements ranging from women's suffrage to Abortion rights.
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Posted by Wallstreetatheist 5 years ago
Wallstreetatheist
poop on youp
Posted by Zetsubou 6 years ago
Zetsubou
argument
Posted by Zetsubou 6 years ago
Zetsubou
I'll give a serious arguement this time.
Posted by Zetsubou 6 years ago
Zetsubou
Really?
Posted by ReformedArsenal 6 years ago
ReformedArsenal
Um... you guys are arguing the same thing...
Posted by Zetsubou 6 years ago
Zetsubou
...is still causing discrimination.

Well I can argue this at least.
Posted by Zetsubou 6 years ago
Zetsubou
...

damn.
Posted by Em4getmenot 6 years ago
Em4getmenot
And that's fine, I just really need more perspectives to write about.
Posted by Em4getmenot 6 years ago
Em4getmenot
That prejudice against women originated in the church and is still causing discrimination.
Posted by Zetsubou 6 years ago
Zetsubou
I'm taking the former argument okay?
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