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RainbowDash52
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SNP1
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Words have no meaning

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Started: 1/16/2016 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 649 times Debate No: 85093
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RainbowDash52

Pro

Resolution: Words have no meaning.

updated so SNP1 can accept.
SNP1

Con

Note, the resolution we have is that "Words have no meaning".

This is not "Words have no intrinsic meaning", but that words themselves have no meaning.

The only evidence I need to support my side of the argument is that you can understand the point I am making through the words I am using. Even looking at the discussion Pro and I had in the comments shows that Pro sees meaning in words.

These meanings are not intrinsic to the combination of letters or sounds, but that is besides the point for the resolution.
Debate Round No. 1
RainbowDash52

Pro

My opponent is correct that the resolution is not "Words have no intrinsic meaning".

Biased Voting is Not Allowed

Here on debate.org, there are rules that are to be followed when voting on a debate. One of these rules includes the topic of "Voting based on personal bias" [1].

"You are supposed to evaluate the debate from the perspective of an unbiased third party who has no opinion about the topic and has no prior knowledge about the subject matter of the debate." [1]

If a person evaluates this debate using their prior knowledge that words have meaning, then that person is not qualified to vote on this debate since they would be voting based on their personal perspective that is biased against the resolution. Interpreting meaning from words in this debate would be an example of using one"s prior knowledge that words have meaning to evaluate this debate.

Therefore any person who wishes to vote on this debate can"t use the assumption that words have meaning to evaluate meaning from words in this debate. Additionally, interpreting meaning from the words in this debate"s resolution would mean that person is biased against the resolution from the start of evaluating this debate and is therefore not allowed to vote, and since you can"t vote without understanding the resolution, no one is capable of casting a valid vote on this debate whether or not they understand the meaning of the words in the resolution of this debate.

Why you should not cast invalid votes

Votes that do not adhere to voting standards will be removed by vote moderators. Additionally, if too many of one"s votes get removed, that person will eventually lose voting privileges. Also casting invalid votes wastes the vote moderators" time. So it would be better if people didn"t intentionally cast invalid votes on any debate, including this one.

Conclusion

The content of this debate is meaningless since no one will be able to cast a valid vote in response to the content of this debate. This argument was just a courtesy to those who mistakenly assumed that they could use their prior opinion that words have meaning to vote on this debate so that I can save them the trouble of having their vote removed.

Sources
[1] http://www.debate.org...
SNP1

Con

If I knew that this would be the tactic you were going to use, then I would have prepared differently for this debate in a way that I could use visuals in order to attach meaning to different words (thus bypassing the prior word meaning argument) and then use words that I have given meaning via visuals to debate. As I do not have time, I agree that no one can cast a valid vote on this debate.

Well played, well played.
Debate Round No. 2
RainbowDash52

Pro

I was hoping for more of a rebuttal from Con, but I guess I will take a 0 to 0 tie against a user with a higher Elo than myself as a personal victory.

Good debate.
SNP1

Con

SNP1 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by RainbowDash52 1 year ago
RainbowDash52
@famousdebater

I'm confused by your RFD. Con did make a constructive argument in round 1. I didn't even make an argument towards the resolution; I only ran a kritik that this debate is unvotable.
Posted by famousdebater 1 year ago
famousdebater
The debate outcome is simple but there appear to be elo restrictions.

Con provided no case when the BOP is split since Pro needs to prove that words have no meaning whilst Con must prove that they do. Since this is subjective it is open to opinion and there is no specific answer that is "objectively correct". Pro provided a case. Con did not. Furthermore, Con forfeited the final round of the debate.
Posted by RainbowDash52 1 year ago
RainbowDash52
doesn't matter
Posted by SNP1 1 year ago
SNP1
Is 1st round acceptance?
Posted by RainbowDash52 1 year ago
RainbowDash52
sorry, try now.
Posted by SNP1 1 year ago
SNP1
Still won't let me accept.
Posted by thags2000 1 year ago
thags2000
Alright, thanks. @RainbowDash52
Although I technically have no experience (on this site), I do have lots of experiences on other sites.
Posted by RainbowDash52 1 year ago
RainbowDash52
@SNP1

you should be able to accept now
Posted by RainbowDash52 1 year ago
RainbowDash52
@thags2000
I'd prefer someone with more experience, but if no one else wants to accept, I might challenge you directly to this same debate.
Posted by SNP1 1 year ago
SNP1
Says I don't meet the requirements.
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