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cesaralberto55
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tyler3923
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Would the US "kill" itself by nuke, in a complete defeat from foreign powers?

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tyler3923
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 3/28/2014 Category: Politics
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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cesaralberto55

Pro

If we were being invaded by Russia allied with China, North Korea, Brazil, and a majority of the Balkans, If all these countries were to team up and come close to toppling the government. would they win, and would twe if we were just about to lose, cover that country with nukes, and then nuke ourselves to get rid of the places where the enemy has taken over?. I think If we went down we would take as many as we could with us.
tyler3923

Con

While this is not a debate I would typically take, I cannot in good conscience allow you to continue believing the above. First off, Russia and China are what we; in my line of work would call "frenemies." Basically they do everything that they can to subvert the U.S. while being too economically dependant on the U.S. as the primary consumer of their exports to actually want war. North Korea is too prideful to ally with anyone and probably believes they could win against the entire world.

From a Naval standpoint (which is essential as that is how they'd have to invade), we would win easily. Look up how many aircraft carriers there are in the world and how many of them are operated by the U.S.

As for toppling the government, they'd be squirreled away in bunkers as soon as a conflict started in the vicinity of our territorial waters.

And as for nukes, unlike with Hiroshima and Nagasaki; we know the consequences now. That you are causing deaths for literally decades. There is simply no upside to resorting to that. And more importantly to the politicians it would make re-election very difficult.

So basically...

The above countries wont invade.
We could repel them easily if they tried.
Key government figures would be safe.
Nuking American soil would be disastrous.
Debate Round No. 1
cesaralberto55

Pro

cesaralberto55 forfeited this round.
tyler3923

Con

My opponent has forfeited his round. Which is fortunate because the topic is so ludicrous that his rebuttal could only be more so.
Debate Round No. 2
cesaralberto55

Pro

cesaralberto55 forfeited this round.
tyler3923

Con

Lets just get this over with.
Debate Round No. 3
cesaralberto55

Pro

cesaralberto55 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
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Vote Placed by Seeginomikata 3 years ago
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