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Would you serve someone Genetically Modified foods? For example, at a resturant?

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Started: 9/27/2013 Category: Health
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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sharky2227

Pro

If genetically modified foods can contain enough nutrients and healthy vitamins to equal an entire meal just by eating one tomato. but do you think that you would serve it to someone else?
HitReaper

Con

No... Most Genetically Modified foods tend to have things like pesticides in them -- to kill bugs; the issue being though they may not kill you if you eat it, though they can cause things like cancer. Along with that it shouldn't even be served at all due to the fact it can even hurt not genetically modified foods -- through cross pollination. I mean yes they could be programmed correctly to be better for you -- though its very unlikely this will happen due to the fact we don't even fully understand DNA at all. A lot of the tests leave out long term trials... So you really couldn't trust the food. So really no I wouldn't serve anyone a Genetically Modified food if I had the ability.

Sources:
http://www.policymic.com...
Debate Round No. 1
sharky2227

Pro

On that note, Genetically modified foods they are not using pesticides, they have decided that technically they are altering the food by putting the pesticides on them because thats how pesticides work by keeping the bugs off by masking the good vegetables with a mask that the insects don't like, with that in mind, I can conclude that we know more about DNA then meets the eye, We have been able to split the DNA and cut it, and put in vitamins that naturally will soak in to the DNA restructuring it, and causing it to immediately create new cells so, a tomato that is the size of a baseball can grow to the size of a bowling ball, simply because a biotechnical engineer gave the tomato more vitamin k and vitamin b6 and b12. So when you say we don't know very much about DNA i retort at your reasoning and argument. Simply on its invalidity. With your "source" it says "with a little tampering the possibilities with DNA are endless" that merely counteracts your entire argument towards how we don't know what we are doing with GM foods. On another note, we use different techniques on how we alter the DNA versus the French, if the french would alter their crops correctly then they wouldn't cause cancer.
HitReaper

Con

Let me clarify by what I mean -- Genetically modified foods use pesticides that are built into the actual plant: genetically. Now we understand the basics of DNA but for the most part functionally we have no idea as to what it will do. What mainly happens is this process find organism with trait find what causes it cut it out put it in. Now these things are fine and dandy but if you've ever taken a college level biology class you know one little tiny change can make a big difference. Now I'm all for selective breeding that's fine; though when you go around messing with the genetics of something like that your taking a big risk. One bad trait that doesn't show up could lead to horrible things to come. Especially when there's reproduction between the regular type of lets say corn and genetically modified corn. Honestly also genetically modified foods are leading the way for Monsanto to control the food supply. Monsanto crops allow farmers to spray more herbicides but this causes more toxins to leach in the food and for insects and pests to grow stronger threw natural selection. Unless there is some serious and I mean serious testing by companies for more then ten years, it is wrong; We'll have no idea what it will do to the population in the future. How chemicals made in the plant could affect our species. Look at the cancer rates now compared into the past I do think some of that could have to do with this. Humans don't need to change things to fit the situations they need to change themselvs for it. Look at studies most of them indicate cancer rates getting higher when using gmos compared to regular foods.
Debate Round No. 2
sharky2227

Pro

To address your argument you have to see all the variables, but you are analyzing your own argument without full knowledge of what you are saying. What i mean is, you talk about pesticides and herbicides, and yet know nothing of how we go about genetically altering the foods, biologists and other researchers have determined that in order to successfully alter a crop through its genetics is to grow them organically. THIS MEANS NO PESTICIDES OR HERBICIDES! That entire argument is invalid. To continue, what we do is, dissect said food then we break down the DNA using the natural acids from other foods, ripping the DNA to shreds, we then insert more of the foods natural DNA into the general area, with many nutrients and vitamins, once the DNA restructures itself, it itself cell divides and creates a new food with the same characteristics, only enhanced. So to counter your argument about small changes do a lot, all we change is a small amount, organically with natural ingredients, no man made ingredients are added simply on one simple principal. Our bodies do not know what to do with things that we make. But with natural ingredients our bodies can naturally absorb the food and use all of the vitamins to their fullest potential. To make a reference, vitamin water, simply a water drink that has been flavored and enhanced with many vitamins and minerals, well thats all we are doing, only instead of mixing the vitamins, nutrients and minerals, we are imbedding them into the food itself making a super food, because of cell division we are able to not have to trial the GM foods with the natural standard foods themselves. but to create 2 which become 4,6,8,10 and so on and so on. To counter your silly relationship between cancer and food itself, the GM foods that you eat on a daily basis are not causing cancer but if anything helping it from ever starting and preventing current cancer from spreading, some GM foods are already being used to help prevent high risk infections such as Staff and MRSA, the natural nutrients in the GM foods are able to help the white blood cells in your body increasing their potential to preventing infections and stopping many diseases from ever starting. We call it EWBC's or Enhanced White Blood Cells. They are beginning to be able to stop and kill diseases, especially in people that have become immune to the effects of antibiotics, (this happens when a person is subject to many antibiotics over time and causing the medicine to not help your body at all your body becomes resistant to it) so the EWBC's are able to attack the diseases and help the patient, person get better in a much faster and accelerated rate. So please please tell me again how you came about the knowledge of GM foods hurting people and causing cancer rates to climb. Because i can state as a fact that GM foods are doing the exact opposite. Make sure to check the packaging of all of the food you consume in 1 week, i know for a fact that at least 5 of the things most americans eat in one week will contain some food that has been genetically altered, (GM foods are not sucralose and other foods that have been man made!!!) FACTS!
HitReaper

Con

You seem to be getting quite animate about this but your still not seeing it... I will source this for you. For example scientist have started putting in Bt toxins into plants as a counters; genetically modified foods use this technique... So please don't tell me I have no idea as to what I'm saying because I do; they think its safe but if you look at source two you will see the difference. They are not safe for human consumption because unlike your belief we have not built the perfect organism/food. Look at the studies before you tell me my idea is completely inept. To be blunt we don't just have magical food that pests will not eat. The new genetically modified foods use dna from other organisms (mainly bacteria) then put the dna into the plant itself; basically instead of spraying poison onto plants we have the plant produce them itself. Which is actually a worse idea wouldn't you think? They're are not enough tests to actually allow us to make sure the safety of individuals eating these items. Cancer and disorder rates have gone up highly -- which could be a very logical reason to come to the conclusion that the food supply be a part of it. Think of it this way your body eats something to take it apart and use it, when you start putting in things that your body was originally designed to digest you can come up with some scary results. You may think your safe because they're is not a problem with you in particular but let me tell you this its not; pregnant women should not be consuming this food or children it could affect the child in ways that we have no idea about. We don't know how eating these foods will fully affect our bodies -- we should consume foods that have adapted with us and we've adapted to consuming. Throwing in some extra vitamins isn't worth the risk of poising a species so truthfully we shouldn't be consuming these foods in the first place we should be consuming naturals. Personally I also notably hate the idea of a company controlling foods -- it's a very scary idea and we shouldn't be handing of that much strength to a company. Most people are told this is the way things are and don't question it. A lot of people who have read such studies that have been cited in the second source -- even want to go so far as to have labels stating if the food is a gmo or not. I think if people really knew the truth, they'd buy the best thing for them in which in this case is regular food.

Source one: http://www.gmo-compass.org...
Source two: http://articles.mercola.com...
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by sharky2227 3 years ago
sharky2227
same to you, i haven't had that much fun since college
Posted by HitReaper 3 years ago
HitReaper
Good debate :P
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