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lawyer_in_training
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LakevilleNorthJT
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Xbox (original) is one of the best consoles out there. Or atleast during it's time.

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 6/12/2008 Category: Technology
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Voting Period
Viewed: 3,128 times Debate No: 4402
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lawyer_in_training

Pro

Xbox was an outstanding product for consumers.Being the first console to deliver stunning graphics, ability to play and rip music to the xbox's hard drive, the ability to play dvd's and the ability to connect with millions across the globe.

I would like someone to try and challenge and me. please. i will debate the rest later and keep all my key points once i have a challenger.
LakevilleNorthJT

Con

My opponent is being unclear as to the resolution thus I will provide a new one. Resolved: Xbox (original) is one of the best consoles out there. First he says its the best and then says at least of its time. Don't let hime get away with this as it puts too large of a burden on CON.

To show why the XBOX is the best console my opponent must weigh the XBOX's specs with that of the following:

XBOX 360
PS3
WII
PS2

Until he does this, I have won the round insofar as the fact that my opponent has not met his burden.
Debate Round No. 1
lawyer_in_training

Pro

Yes, i may have put to much burden on you but it was pleasing to see someone counter like that. Now to start.

Well the xbox console being the first system to have a built in hard-drive which allows you to save music and game saves was quite outstanding. Some neither the ps2 or wii can do. The fact that the wii can not play Cds or DVDs is one thing the xbox has over the wii. The xbox was also the console that helped jump start Microsoft's entrance in the gaming war.

The Xbox 360 is just the predecessor of the xbox. All the bugs and improvements where then changed and computed into the xbox 360. With out the xbox, mircrosoft's xbox 360 wouldn't have been so successful.

Price wise now a days a regular refurbished xbox from EB Games cost about $45 Canadian. A refurbished xbox 360, that cost roughly $235. Thats a price difference of about $190. The xbox also has a way larger variety games compared to the xbox 360. The xbox has over 300 games for gamers to choose from while the xbox 360 only has about 100 or less.

Going back to the PS2, the xbox has a better processor allowing it to load games faster then the ps2. The graphics are also better. An example is Fifa 07 on Xbox and on PS2. Gamers can see the difference between both consoles.

Now with the ps3. Like a stated earlier now a days the xbox costs about $45 refurbished. The ps3 on the other hand $400. The ps3 has launched less then a year ago meaning that there still may be bugs and glitches as compared to the xbox's launch in 2001, by now most and if not all glitches and bugs have been sorted out. Games? Yes the xbox has way more games then the ps3 does, giving gamers a wide selection to choose from. Platinum hits costing about $15 or less for the xbox while ps3 games costing over $55 dollars.

From all the points i have made above i do believe and stand firmly that the xbox was an amazing gaming console of it's time, and still is.
LakevilleNorthJT

Con

"The Xbox 360 is just the predecessor of the xbox. All the bugs and improvements where then changed and computed into the xbox 360. With out the xbox, mircrosoft's xbox 360 wouldn't have been so successful."

This is it. My opponent needs to prove that the XBOX is the best. He just admitted that the 360 is the same as a XBOX without the bugs. It does not matter that the XBOX was the original. The 360 is thus better and because of this I have won the round.
Debate Round No. 2
lawyer_in_training

Pro

"Xbox (original) is ONE of the best consoles out there. Or at least during it's time."

Yes, i stated that the xbox 360 had some more improvements over the xbox but my debate was about the xbox being ONE of the best consoles, not the best. Yes the xbox 360 has improvements but overall is it better? and if it is does that mean that the xbox is not one of the best consoles?

Something i must discuss. Modding. Microsoft may not approve of this but however if it's either a software modification (soft mod) or a hardware modification (hard mod) the xbox really unleashes it's full potential. Once your xbox is modded you can turn it into a full media center and i think anyone with a modded xbox will agree. With the ability to: Back up/store games on your xbox's hard drive, Have retro systems such as n64,Game boy Advanced,PS1, Atari and many others. Also with a modded xbox you can customize your xbox dashboard to several different types such as Xbox Media Centre. With the mc 360 skin it allows you to make your xbox startup screens/homepage look just like the one of a regular xbox 360. Again going back to xbox modding,also allowing you to play burnt games,change the LED lights of your xbox and many more. and xbox being a lot easier to mod compared to the ps2, wii,xbox 360 and ps3.

From what i have stated in this and previous rounds xbox is one of the best consoles, or at least for now. Stunning graphics, awesome offline and online game play, easy to find, not very cheap. Only some one mad would not agree that the xbox is an amazing system.
LakevilleNorthJT

Con

My opponent concedes that the 360 is an improvement from the XBOX.

Thus you.........

VOTE CON
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by lawyer_in_training 8 years ago
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And LakeVille it seems you have a lot of pride in your self, a bit too much with comments such as "and because of this I have won the round." You have not won any round. In fact your logic makes no sense. "It does not matter that the XBOX was the original. The 360 is thus better.." Thats like saying "it doesn't matter that the first video game console was made video games would be the same" As you explore the more and more you discover. So it would be very unlikely for someone to have made the HD 3D Graphics we have to day, with out any prior experiments/tests. And i never said the xbox was the best i said one of the best.

and one more thing. Why would anyone vote con when you can vote Pro.
Posted by beem0r 8 years ago
beem0r
"One of the best" does not mean "the best."
Posted by Logical-Master 8 years ago
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"Just to clarify, this kid is just being ridiculous. Why would I honestly care about what happens in an online debate?"

Good question. Allow me to provide a good answer:

1) That question would assume we know you. None of us really know you well enough to know whether or not you'd be the type to resort to cheating in real life, thus, it is an inadequate defense against the notion that you have more than one account.

2) You could attempt to apply that same question to just about anyone, but it doesn't change the fact that many here have had multiple accounts. Even the most honest "seemingly mature" calm and calculating people have been exposed by the seemingly omniscient Webmaster.

3) You debate in competition debate style on all your debates. Thus, we can conclude that you're here to win debates, not simply to expand your viewpoints. Given that you like to win, it is certainly not unreasonable to suggest that you wouldn't be against winning at the aforementioned lengths.

4) Many individuals often use online forums to hide behind a pseudonym and act in a way they would never be able to get away with acting in real life. In doing this, they not only manage to sway themselves from accepting their own problems and character flaws, but they also manage to inflate their own egos and make themselves feel much better. On this site, maintaining a 100% win ratio is a means of doing this.

So given the above 4 points, there is indeed a solid motivation.
Posted by lawyer_in_training 8 years ago
lawyer_in_training
sorry type-o where it says "not very cheap" i meant to say " not very expensive"
Posted by lawyer_in_training 8 years ago
lawyer_in_training
Yes the 360 may be an improvement but how ever some one really needs to read the debate. I never said it was the best, i said it was one of them. *sigh*
Posted by lawyer_in_training 8 years ago
lawyer_in_training
sorry i forgot to mention. It does matter that the xbox was made before the 360. Think about it, microsoft looked at what consumers liked about the xbox and what they disliked. Then they made the 360 with the same basic concepts of the original xbox and some more extras. If not would the xbox 360 have been so successful? You say it does not matter but you are mistaken. The xbox was like the foundation, and the 360 built upon that. Now after you respond to my arguement i think its up to the jury/voters to see who one this one.

Another thing i may add is that you never said anything about the xbox being a bad system. You just told me to compare it to other systems and in some ways thanks for that. It made me realize how truely good the xbox is compared to other systems.
Posted by lawyer_in_training 8 years ago
lawyer_in_training
Im a noob to this so if my debates seem very ridiculous dont blame me. Im only 13. lol
Posted by LakevilleNorthJT 8 years ago
LakevilleNorthJT
Just to clarify, this kid is just being ridiculous. Why would I honestly care about what happens in an online debate?
Posted by Pluto2493 8 years ago
Pluto2493
All-right, All-right, hold your horses...
Posted by lawyer_in_training 8 years ago
lawyer_in_training
I do not have multiple accounts. I don't even know who dan the lawyer is. I just created this account yesterday and i am currently in only two debates right now. If you see my profile maybe you will believe me. Honestly i do not make multiple accounts, i just wanted some practice, not to cheat on something like this.
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