The Instigator
Benshapiro
Pro (for)
Losing
3 Points
The Contender
leonardlewis4
Con (against)
Winning
17 Points

You cannot solve this riddle

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leonardlewis4
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 7/31/2013 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 3 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Rounds (2)
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Votes (5)

 

Benshapiro

Pro

"Neither coming nor going, but ever flowing
Continuous, limitless, minuteless
It has no form, yet was born
Existing, listening, hinting."
leonardlewis4

Con

A riddle.
Debate Round No. 1
Benshapiro

Pro

Your mind.
leonardlewis4

Con

I actually considered that answer, but discounted it for multiple reasons.

It is your riddle--so I guess you could be considered the final authority. Although, I wouldn't consider my mind (or any human mind) to be effectively "limitless". I still don't know what "minuteless" means, unless it means "timeless" as I suggested--in which case, I'm not sure how to apply that as an attribute of my mind. So perhaps, the voters will be the final authority.

Let me list a couple of the other attributes I had trouble applying to your answer, "your mind":

- continuous - adj. marked by uninterrupted extension in space, time, or sequence. - Merriam-Webster
- has no form

All of the attributes I listed would seem to depend on the truth of my mind being something more than the 100 billion nerve cells (neurons) that make up my brain--something more than the electrochemical transmission of signals taking place physically inside my brain. I happen to hold to that belief, but many do not. Some would argue that our minds are nothing more than an advanced, although severely limited, nerve center "fizzing" away with electrochemical activity--in which case, the attributes that suggest "no physical/temporal boundaries" would not apply.

I came up with "a riddle" as my answer for the following reasons:

- A riddle can be directionless, though, ever flowing, continuous and limitless in the sense that it may abound in possibilities and wonder
- A riddle is limitless in the sense that it is not bound to a single solution
- A riddle may certainly be "timeless" in its relevance
- A riddle is certainly "without form"
- A riddle must be born in the sense that someone must conceive of it
- A riddle certainly exists in the conceptual sense
- A riddle "listens" (metaphorically), awaiting an answer
- A riddle hints by its very nature
Debate Round No. 2
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Posted by funwiththoughts 3 years ago
funwiththoughts
This is unsolvable only if one takes a view of complete obedience and unquestioning, assuming that what they are told must be right, and additionally takes the view that there can only be one answer to any question.
Posted by leonardlewis4 3 years ago
leonardlewis4
Thanks Benshapiro... Apparently, donald.keller disagrees with you. :)
Posted by Benshapiro 3 years ago
Benshapiro
I like your interpretation and you explained it well so give points to con. I actually made this riddle with the intention of it being unsolvable, but riddle is an acceptable answer and I still think mind is too.

Minuteless (timeless) mind is part of the soul, which exists after this life forever (assuming you believe in God)
Limitless - the mind/soul is separate from the brain, and its limitations are not limited to any physical restraints
Continuous - continuing on (relating to timeless)
Was born - a mind within a human being that is born
Posted by mrsatan 3 years ago
mrsatan
If I had to guess, I'd say wisdom
Posted by sweetbreeze 3 years ago
sweetbreeze
God?
Posted by Benshapiro 3 years ago
Benshapiro
*changed to two rounds
Posted by Ragnar 3 years ago
Ragnar
You are all missing the fact that pro cannot respond to whatever is submitted... Pro, I strongly suggest changing this to two rounds.
Posted by leonardlewis4 3 years ago
leonardlewis4
Is "minuteless" even a word??? :)

If so, what the heck does it mean, "timeless"?
Posted by leonardlewis4 3 years ago
leonardlewis4
The Internet
Posted by Shadowguynick 3 years ago
Shadowguynick
But wind can come and go :\
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Vote Placed by funwiththoughts 3 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Even though con didn't give the intended answer, he managed to adequately explain why his answer was correct and the intended answer was not. Just because Pro asked the question doesn't mean he knew the answer. S&G goes to Con for Pro's use of the nonexistent word "minuteless".
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro asked to give points to Con.
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro said to give Con points
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Reasons for voting decision: he was right. Con did not guess the riddle right. Even if he disagrees with the Answer to the riddle, he was wrong.
Vote Placed by Ameliamk1 3 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Both of your answers are a little weak, but con did argue his case effectively...Pro's riddle is simply too open to interpretation. Riddle's are supposed to be obvious once you know the answer.