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Sir_Logic
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studentathletechristian8
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You cannot truthfully answer yes to the question, "Are you asleep?"

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Started: 12/24/2009 Category: Miscellaneous
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Voting Period
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Sir_Logic

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It is, by logical standards, that one cannot truthfully, answer yes to the question: "Are you asleep?" And by asleep I do not pertain to a derived form of said sleep. I do not mean being in a state of interactiveness or idleness, I mean something in the nature of REM sleep.
studentathletechristian8

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I thank my opponent for the debate and the readers for another opportunity.

I shall negate the resolution, "You cannot truthfully answer yes to the question, "Are you asleep?"".

In my opponent's opening round, he does not commence argumentation. He merely makes an assertion that "it is, by logical standards, that one cannot truthfully, answer yes to the question: "Are you asleep?"". My opponent then clarifies that when he refers to sleep, he means "something in the nature of REM sleep." Very well; I shall begin my argumentation.

I shall start my arguments by clarifying the activity of sleep talking. "The medical term for this activity is "somniloquy." It occurs when you talk out-loud during sleep. A listener may or may not be able to understand what you are saying. Sleep talking can occur by itself."

"Sleep talking may occur in any stage of NREM sleep or REM sleep."

Since sleep talking may occur in any stage of REM sleep (which my opponent specifies with "asleep"), it is possible for one to state the word, "yes."

Now, let me take you on a journey into one of my brother's sleeping routines. He brushes his teeth, takes his contacts out, and jumps in bed. After getting settled in, he falls asleep; into REM sleep. I come over to him and can tell he's in REM sleep by his rapid eye movement. He begins talking in his sleep. After talking about useless things that happened during his day, my brother pauses in his sleep talking. I then ask him the question, "Are you asleep?" At this moment, my brother starts to speak again and the first word that he exclaims is "yes." He is in REM sleep, which by my opponent's clarification, means that he is asleep. My brother truthfully answered the question (since my opponent did not define "truthfully," it shall be defined as "habitually" for the debate) because he constantly stated the word "yes" during his sleep. The resolution is negated.

Also, I want to let the readers know that since my opponent is making a general claim, his reference to "you" does not only refer to me. It refers to a general audience of various people. For simplicity, it is assumed that my brother is an average, regular, person, which he is.

Even if the readers do not buy my story, that does not mean I have lost. My opponent has yet to provide support for his side. How does my opponent know that someone cannot truthfully answer yes to the question, "Are you asleep?"? My story alone proves my side. I await my opponent's argumentation.

Source:

1) http://www.sleepeducation.com...
Debate Round No. 1
Sir_Logic

Pro

Sir_Logic forfeited this round.
studentathletechristian8

Con

My opponent has forfeited the round and has failed to create argumentation thus far.

All arguments extended. I heavily urge a Con vote. Thank you.
Debate Round No. 2
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Posted by True2GaGa 7 years ago
True2GaGa
Con.
Posted by Danielle 7 years ago
Danielle
Con.
Posted by studentathletechristian8 7 years ago
studentathletechristian8
Same voting as Cody.
Posted by Cody_Franklin 7 years ago
Cody_Franklin
Conduct: Con - Pro forfeited.

S/G: Tied - No errors harsh enough to vote on.

Arguments: Con - Somniloquy. Period.

Sources: Con - Con had the only source, and he used it well.
Posted by studentathletechristian8 7 years ago
studentathletechristian8
Precisely, wjm.
Posted by wjmelements 7 years ago
wjmelements
If you're talking to someone who is asleep and they make any intelligible sound, they are said to have been "responding" or "answering".
Posted by Sir_Logic 7 years ago
Sir_Logic
Sleep talking implies that we talk in our sleep, to answer one would need to understand the question and then answer...
Posted by Zetsubou 7 years ago
Zetsubou
lol, SAC in the Matrix.

Very hard to go against SAN
Posted by wjmelements 7 years ago
wjmelements
Sleep talking. Resolution negated.
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