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bluecat0
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Yraelz
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You should be a law to have to vist the docter at least once a year for free

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Started: 2/24/2008 Category: Health
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
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bluecat0

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I believe that it should be a law to go to the docter at least once a year for free because it is very important to care for your body. The reason i say free is because poor, not so well paid(ect)people can not afford it.
Yraelz

Con

I negate, on two levels.

1. I do not feel I should be a law because I feel I have more potential than a law would. If there is actually substantial need for such a law then I would offer the alternative that perhaps we should make the law without turning me into a law.

2. Such a law inhibit freedom of expression etc... While I think free health care is a marvelous idea actually mandating that I go to get my free health care sounds like government controlling yet another portion of my life. Government should not have control in issues such as this as mandated by the constitution. I would instead offer the alternative that free health care be offered once per year but not mandated.

I now stand open for my opponents rebuttal.
Debate Round No. 1
bluecat0

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bluecat0 forfeited this round.
Yraelz

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My opponent concedes the debate to me. I suppose this means I probably win.... Extend arguments. Character limits are obnoxious.
Debate Round No. 2
bluecat0

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bluecat0 forfeited this round.
Yraelz

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Well.... I guess I would just ask that my arguments are extended.

100 character limit, I urge everyone to vote for me.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by DucoNihilum 9 years ago
DucoNihilum
Redistributing wealth, socializing industries, etc is a violation of all life, liberty, and property. Property is violated when private property of healthcare clinics is not allowed, or when it is taken. Liberty is violated by the inability to possess this property, or for another example, become a doctor in a non-socialized field- Life is violated as people are denied of their fruits of their Liberty and Property (Their life is made up of their liberty and Property).

Although this is a quick sort of summary before I go back to studying.
Posted by beem0r 9 years ago
beem0r
I don't see how anyone, ever, could view free health care provided by the state as abridging your rights to life, liberty, or property. You have just as much right to live, and actually have easier access to that which will allow you to continue living, you don't lose any liberty, and you certainly don't lose the right to property. You'll definitely have to explain how it abridges these rights to me if you want to persuade me, since I'm still not getting it, Duco.
Posted by Kleptin 9 years ago
Kleptin
"1. I do not feel I should be a law"

I KNEW IT I KNEW IT I KNEW IT

First thing that popped into my mind when I saw this topic. Unfair!
Posted by DucoNihilum 9 years ago
DucoNihilum
Socialized health care (as implied) on a federal level is clearly illegal, socialized health care on a state level can easily be interpreted as abridging the rights of Life, Liberty, and Property.
Posted by beem0r 9 years ago
beem0r
Oh, I guess that might have just been to show me that the constitution does put some limit on what states can do, which I was under the opposite impression of. If that's all you were saying that for, then consider me properly owned.
Posted by beem0r 9 years ago
beem0r
I don't see where free healthcare would abridge people's privileges or whatever else you think it would do from that list. You're stretching, methinks.
Posted by DucoNihilum 9 years ago
DucoNihilum
14:1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Posted by beem0r 9 years ago
beem0r
Where does it limit what laws about healthcare state government can enact? Cannot a state simply decide to give its denizens free health care? It does not need to be specifically authorized in the constitution.
Also, could not healthcare organizations also give out free healthcare? He never said the government was the provider of said healthcare, he simply said that they shouldn't force you to go get free healthcare if it is available.
Basically, it was not implied that the federal government was the one providing healthcare, and they're the only one limited to only do things the constitution allows for.
Posted by DucoNihilum 9 years ago
DucoNihilum
Where exactly does the constitution authorize free healthcare?
Posted by beem0r 9 years ago
beem0r
What's unconstitutional about free health care?
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