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dianacpc516
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MissMissy21
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You should follow stoic principles

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dianacpc516
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 9/27/2012 Category: Philosophy
Updated: 4 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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dianacpc516

Pro

You should follow stoic principles because when there is a lack of interest then there is a lack of desire. You shouldn't extend your desire. If something comes your way then take, if it passes you that let it pass. You shouldn't seem greedy. Your hope and desire brings fear. you have no choice but to fear, you fear that it won't happen or that you won't get it.
MissMissy21

Con

The stoics believed in having no regards to desire or fear, clearly the stoics have died out and this has not worked as they have hoped. Desire is an emotion that brings joy and pleasure it is natural human feeling that should not be ignored or regarded as useless many great things have come from desires of others, inventions, human rights, religions, America. while desire hand in hand with fear a great man once said there is nothing to fear but fear itself. Far brings on challenges and obstacles that take great power and mind set to over come, more power then ignoring human emotions. Fear can bring out the thing your truly desire, many wants are hidden and the fear of losing such will bring out the best
Debate Round No. 1
dianacpc516

Pro

When great things have been inventeed or created, that is becuase they don't actualy have fear, they do it with not caring what others say or think about. Its in their control, there mind is something can control, they can't contol the viewpoints of others, they're in control of their own minds , and you cant change it
MissMissy21

Con

While many life changing action where done without caring what others thought, they still feared for their lives and freedoms. They desired to have what they wanted and they created fear in the minds of others, the minds that were unsure. They created circumstances and situation where one had no choice but to fall victim to their own personal desires, apathy was thrown out the window and replaced by sympathy people began to care for one another and for another persons desire and fear. many great men stood side by side facing fear in the face with desire at their backs for the country we are in today. Soldiers to this day fight with fear all around them for the desires of people they don't even know., for counties that aren't even their homeland, for countries that have killed their family.
Debate Round No. 2
dianacpc516

Pro

If people did follow the stoic's principles then people wouldn't , feel pain, they would block everything out. They would take what comes to them and there wouldbn't be question about. The desire may be the drive but that always includes fear. They just roll with it.
MissMissy21

Con

Fear is the drive the brings us into the future, brings us to the joys of today and we can enjoy the things we have struggled for because we have the ability to feel desire. WE deal with fear for the feeling of pleasure and we strive for pleasure to overcome the obstacle of fear.
Debate Round No. 3
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Reasons for voting decision: Obviously a bit of a low quality debate but interesting nonetheless. Both participants could have afforded to define relevant terms like Stoic principles and an expansion of the word should would have been awesome. Not doing this severely limited the debate. On the arguments presented though, Con's fear point was largely unsubstantiated and was refuted by Pro's point that people do great things in spit of fear, not because of it.