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farfrom123789
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Donlatt
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You should not abort a child

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 2/2/2008 Category: Health
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
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farfrom123789

Pro

Aborting a child is taking away another persons life as soon as they come into the world. The reason why I am in favor of not aborting a child is because what's the sense of wanting kids, then when you get pregnant and have the chance to have a kid you are going to abort the baby. Its not fair for a kid to suffer fro so much and when you are living your life after you abort the child you will feel guilty.
Donlatt

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Although I have seen a variety of debates similar to this on debate.org, I have never debated the topic, and I thank you for the opportunity.

First of all, you say that "The reason why I am in favor of not aborting a child is because what's the sense of wanting kids, then when you get pregnant and have the chance to have a kid you are going to abort the baby".

Most women who get abortions had no intention of getting pregnant in the first place. The either forgot to use contraceptive devices, or said devices failed. Although this may not apply to all women, it's generally the case.

Your next point is "Its not fair for a kid to suffer fro so much".

The fetus inside of you is completely dependent on you. It is not a life as much as it is a parasite, and physically, it can't suffer if it's aborted before 26 weeks, as it's not developed enough to experience or feel pain. There are even studies that suggest that pain cannot be felt until after birth, due to psychological development that cannot occur in the womb.

Finally, you say "and when you are living your life after you abort the child you will feel guilty" however this is not a fact and does not happen to every women who has an abortion.

Regardless, women should have the right to abort a child because it is part of her body, and in a sense, her property.
Debate Round No. 1
farfrom123789

Pro

well i understand that but:
fact1-its destroying another persons life
fact2-would someone like to abort a child and then have a grudge over that choice for the rest of their life.
fact3-some young children have babies and for some reason abort the child and have others and abort them
fact4-this will be a very dumb thing to do when you know that you are going to destroy the chance of having a child.
fact5-some people do this on purpose they get pregnant and abort the child
fact6-I know that its their children and their property but its not fair to abort a child.
Donlatt

Con

To begin, you state "its destroying another persons life" however, this point depends on the definition of life and when life begins in the womb. I for one, think life begins at birth, and before birth, the fetus is similar to a parasite. This is because unlike a human, it gets all of it's necessities from it's host or in this case, the mother. This includes nutrients, vitamins, minerals, warmth, shelter and water. Without the mother, the fetus could not survive, and therefore is property of the mother, and not a self-sustaining life.

Next, you make the comment "Would someone like to abort a child and then have a grudge over that choice for the rest of their life", but not all women who have abortions feel miserable afterwards. Many might even feel relieved to know they wont have to take care of a child that they know would not have proper care.

I don't understand what you're trying to get at with your next statement. "Some young children have babies and for some reason abort the child and have others and abort them"? And...?

For your next 'fact', you say "this will be a very dumb thing to do when you know that you are going to destroy the chance of having a child", however that's an opinion, not a fact. Why would someone who's having an abortion care about destroying the chance of having a child? The whole point of having an abortion is so they wont have a child.

I find your next point very unlikely. "Some people do this on purpose they get pregnant and abort the child"? Are you saying people get pregnant just so they could have an abortion? It's a drastic measure to avoid having a child, not a hobby.

"I know that its their children and their property but its not fair to abort a child" Care to elaborate on that?

Also, you accept the fact that the fetus is the property of the mother. Doesn't the mother have the right to choose what to do with her property?
Debate Round No. 2
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Posted by sershawn44 7 years ago
sershawn44
Natural rights apply to citizens, which is those who are born in the U.S. However you are not born if you are a fetus. Which means natural right do not apply.
Posted by Donlatt 8 years ago
Donlatt
The fact that my opponent received any votes at all exposes an enormous flaw in Debate.org.

As opposed to voting for whoever actually had the better argument, you voted for my opponent because you agreed with her.

To say that my opponent had a better argument is absurd. I am not conceited or arrogant in this manner. It would be foolish to deny such a thing. Just look at her debate. Very few of her points are actually valid, and her incoherent rambling don't help her cause.

How about you actually read the argument next time, as opposed to thinking 'I support abortion, thus I am voting for her'. Debate.org isn't here so you can voice your opinion, it's so you can practice the art of logic.
Posted by goldspurs 9 years ago
goldspurs
"It is not a life as much as it is a parasite, and physically, it can't suffer if it's aborted before 26 weeks, as it's not developed enough to experience or feel pain"

You sure about that 26 weeks? One of my Soldier's wife gave birth to 24 week old twins. Granted one of them eventually died, the other is almost a month old.
Posted by arock 9 years ago
arock
1) There is a law in efect right now that says if you murder a women who is pregnant you get 2 counts of murder.
2)There are videos of abortions out currently that show when an abbortion is being performed that shows the fetus trying to get away from the neddle which shows that it is scared which means it know what pain is.
Posted by nik123_kim 9 years ago
nik123_kim
I agree for phatom too... Every single life is important..... We dont have the right to kill the life of others especially,, that life formed from our own flesh
Posted by LOOKE 9 years ago
LOOKE
this is for haab2178 who commented below. if you where diagnosed with anything and you where given 5 years to live, painfully, would you want the choice to have thoses last five years of your life or to end it now. the out come is up to you, the differance is YOU would have the choice. And also, all of us are born with a 100% fatality rate.
Posted by Agent_D 9 years ago
Agent_D
I agree with you looke. life cannot pathom in a single word as "parasite"
Posted by LOOKE 9 years ago
LOOKE
con says a fetus is comparable to a parasite, that would only make sence to someone who supports abortion. Supporters of abortion are usually quit liberal, so i guess this all makes perfact sence. A baby inside its mother is a baby parasite, and than when it is born and as it grows into an adult "parasite", You expect for it to be dependent on the government. A parasite for the tax payer. your argeument makes good sense in a frame of mind like yours, but I dissagree 100%. A fetus is not a parasite because it did not infiltrate your body to survive, you and one other person made the decision to act in a way to put it there.
Posted by pirates1434 9 years ago
pirates1434
Con successfully countered every point Pro made. However Pro dropped many of Con's points. Plus the Con side was much more convincing. Good job Con
Posted by Agent_D 9 years ago
Agent_D
I dont agree to donlatt,

"this point depends on the definition of life and when life begins in the womb. I for one, think life begins at birth, and before birth, the fetus is similar to a parasite. This is because unlike a human, it gets all of it's necessities from it's host or in this case, the mother."
Now if this is the basis for aborting a child, would this be the same ground to kill all elderly people? All elder especially at the age of 80 and above is like a parisite that depend merely on us(relatives,institution etc.)

now imagine if you allowed to abort a child by saying it is a kind of parisite, then you must approved to kill your mom at the age of 80+? Challenge me on this matter
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