The Instigator
vi_spex
Pro (for)
Losing
2 Points
The Contender
Vox_Ex_Rationis
Con (against)
Winning
3 Points

a box that can never be opened is empty

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Vox_Ex_Rationis
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 12/14/2016 Category: Science
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Rounds (2)
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Vox_Ex_Rationis

Con

Scientifically, you cannot make that statement. Perhaps it is empty, perhaps it is not. You sound like you must be religious or something, to accept that a box with unknown contents is empty, based on faith. Wow. Just. WOW...

so ne.
Debate Round No. 1
vi_spex

Pro

so what is in it, it can never be opened.

and i wrote it a bit fast, lets say it is also immovable so you cant just shake it and tell
Vox_Ex_Rationis

Con

"and i wrote it a bit fast, lets say it is also immovable so you cant just shake it and tell"

Why didn't you say so? That is totally a far more rational scenario. In that case your god obviously doesn't want to know what is in the box, vi_spex, by making it tautologically unable to be opened, and immovable.

We rational men of science know there are no such paltry boundaries that your primitive superstitions create to manipulate the masses. This entire thought experiment is based on some kind of Greek or Abrahamic myth.
Pandora and the djinn maybe? :P

If a problem appears unsolvable, an intelligent community creates a working hypothesis and tests it, and never rests, even when a scientific law is established it is subject to experimentation and debate in order to create better understanding.

Why don't you pray to your sky daddy, vi_spex. If that helps you sleep at night because your subconscious whispers to you the lies of your captors that the box is empty or has a zombie cat in it or whatever, then that is your constitutional right, but don't use your nonscientific religious drivel to impose your theistic values on others. You're probably one of those religious trump supporters who wants to ban all Muslims!
Debate Round No. 2
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Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
true IS
Posted by Vox_Ex_Rationis 1 year ago
Vox_Ex_Rationis
Is that what you're saying?
Posted by Vox_Ex_Rationis 1 year ago
Vox_Ex_Rationis
kNOw
GOD
Posted by jo154676 1 year ago
jo154676
I am not agreeing with spex just pointing out the similarities in the debate
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
there is no god, becuase then i would know god

this answer was the point of this debate
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
i already explained these things to you several times
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
you are reading things into it, as is necessary, i dont make mistakes
Posted by Vox_Ex_Rationis 1 year ago
Vox_Ex_Rationis
Wait a minute vi_spex, do you honestly say there is no god? You tell everyone you meet to "experience Donald Trump's bible" and to ban all Muslims... I assumed you were religious. Have you been a closet atheist this whole time?
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
there is no god, becuase then i would know god
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
the point of it is that you cant know whats inside, you therfore know its empty becuase its content can only be unknown
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Vote Placed by EXOPrimal 1 year ago
EXOPrimal
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Reasons for voting decision: Con started insulting pro at the end, but overall had a much better argument
Vote Placed by warren42 1 year ago
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Reasons for voting decision: For once vi_spex has better conduct. Vox attacked vi_spex's political and theological beliefs that were not even brought up. Complete ad hom.