The Instigator
frenchmoose
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Losing
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The Contender
Marauder
Con (against)
Winning
50 Points

a penny is worth more then a dime

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Marauder
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 4/6/2010 Category: Entertainment
Updated: 7 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 1,759 times Debate No: 11652
Debate Rounds (4)
Comments (9)
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frenchmoose

Pro

*awaits an opponent to let start*

Will post my arguments in R2.
Marauder

Con

if your are starting R2 then so am I

Thank you for starting this debate.
Debate Round No. 1
frenchmoose

Pro

No, thank you
Marauder

Con

If you continue to refuse to go first I can wait tell round 4 to post an argument and thus be the only one who argued and by default my argument would be the best.

Its your turn, go first.
Debate Round No. 2
frenchmoose

Pro

I would like to take this time to sample a chicken wing drenched in hot sauce
Marauder

Con

Good because I would like to take this time to drink a Dr. Pepper and eat a cadbery egg.

I will also expose this debate as a method of trolling, and not intended to be a real debate about the value of pennies.
Debate Round No. 3
frenchmoose

Pro

-As I have been ever so diligently been trying to prove, a penny is indeed worth more then a dime.-

-It costs .0126 cents US to create a penny [1]-

-If this is true then this would mean that in order to make a penny.. it would cost more then the value of a penny to create.-

-Moving onward to the dime within the same source.-

"Other currency, such as dimes and quarters, costs much less to make. "[1]

-Ah, the smell of a rushed debate.-

-Anyway I believe that con now owes me 7 internetz and a lifetime supply of cheetos. VOTE for PedRO-

[1] http://www.wisegeek.com...
Marauder

Con

Check and mate, I successfully made you give an actual argument. Thank you for participating in your own debate.

If the viewing audience would take a close look at what my opponent has written down, you may notice the same thing I have.
She has attached as a true value for coins not what the department of treasury denotes them, but rather their true worth is reflected in the cost it takes to make them.

For a penny, normally worth 1.000 cents, she points out it cost 0.0126 cents to make it so making a penny is a net gain of 0.9874 cents.

Then she goes on to tell us that it takes even less than that to make the coins that are worth more in the eyes of the department of treasury. Ergo even greater net gain.

Perhaps the source she gave actually conveys something different, that the net gain in making a dime is less than the net gain you make in making a penny, but since my opponent clearly failed to articulate that and by some accident articulated the opposite meaning, she should lose this debate.

Plus my opponent has completely ignored my case that I have been making every single round that money only has the value it does under certain conditions. When disaster strikes your area candles, flashlights, generators, fresh bottled water and guns become worth there wait in gold.
When everything hits the fans and we are forced to find what any worth there is in these two coins you see that because dimes are more sturdy and harder, it takes less to fill a bag full of coins that you can hit people with like a club to defend yourself.

My opponent has also never addressed my point that you cant pay the cashier with .0126 cents, they will laugh at you when you try. You have to save all your .0126 cents until you have enough to make a hole cent that you can exchange them for, because a completely made penny is the lowest value that any commercial vendor will accept. Since you cannot lose lower than one cent values they virtually have no value until they become a whole cent, and once a whole coin the dime clearly stands out over the penny.

Plus, my opponent did not specify we refer to only dimes made recently with FDR on them. We must be talking about all dimes and pennies. The best penny that is worth the most would be made with real copper, but the best dime would be made with real silver. Melted down the dime is worth more, cause silver is worth more than copper. http://www.bellbookandcandle.biz...

So lets refresh my four argument.
1) my opponent conveyed her argument so poorly that if you didn't read her source you would be convinced dimes are worth more.
2) When people stop valuing money dimes serve better as make shift club than pennies
3) People only accept whole cents now a day's, so the denoted value on the coin is all that we care about or believe in.
4) My opponent has obviously been referring to her penny that she pulled out of her pocket, it was minted last year its not worth much, and the dime in question is obviously supposed to be mine and mine is a factory mint condition silver dime that predates the FDR dime. It's worth way more than a 10 cents now. And very much more than her penny.

I don't owe my opponent cheetos, but I believe you owe me your 2-cents. I hear there worth more than dimes these day's! ;)
Vote for Vader (he was framed)
Debate Round No. 4
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Posted by nickthengineer 7 years ago
nickthengineer
"-It costs .0126 cents US to create a penny [1]-

-If this is true then this would mean that in order to make a penny.. it would cost more then the value of a penny to create."

cents =/= dollars

check this out and be enlightened:
http://verizonmath.blogspot.com...
Posted by Marauder 7 years ago
Marauder
well I found them in a trash can and I thought 'what a waist of good cheetos' but I still didnt want to eat them but since you do....
Posted by frenchmoose 7 years ago
frenchmoose
i would like to thank my opponent for the cheetos
Posted by homework 7 years ago
homework
worst attempt at debate trickery EVER. 0 to 20. lawlz.
Posted by FREEDO 7 years ago
FREEDO
I could absolutely win this, I know how to get around the semantics but I'm too lazy.
Posted by frenchmoose 7 years ago
frenchmoose
shhh
Posted by frenchmoose 7 years ago
frenchmoose
shhh
Posted by Koopin 7 years ago
Koopin
French will just use semantics of copper and metal. A penny cost a lot of money to make.
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