a responsible thing 2 do for the USA is to increase taxes
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we spend 3.5 trillion a year. our deficit is like half a trillion.
we can only find insufficient things to cut. you can rail against things like the department of education or depart of housing etc, but you will find you are talking about small fries. we spend about a fifth on healthcare, a fifth on defense, another on social security, another on interest, and the rest on general governance. to oversimplify s the proportions aren't quite that and mroe could be added to say healthcare. that means cutting those departments is cutting a fraction of the budget. you could cut general governance in half, and it'd only be like ten percent of our budget. paying for the poor as the major problem is a myth as hte feds only spend not much beyond ten percent on them.
reputable sources say our debt is manageable.... but it won't be forever. we need to balance the budget. cutting entitlements ain't gonna work politically. cutting general governance will only take you so far. the poor as the problem is a myth. we've been borrowinng against our future so long that it's starting to catch up with us. it isn't all that politically feasible, but increasing taxes is the most politically feasible thing to do.
and it's not like this is without precedent. our tax rates have been much hghe on a regular basis in the past.
Raising taxes will only funnel more money into endless war, government bureaucracy and interest groups. The responsible thing to do is to cut taxes and allow people to keep more of the money they have earned. This would create political pressure on politicians to cut spending and without such confiscatory tax rates the economy would have more room to grow.
con gives no real solutions.
but as to repudiation. is that moral? no. con lambasts taxes because it is theft he says, but he's okay with some just not a lot apparently? if a little is okay, a little more isn't necessarily so bad either. and repudiation is just as bad as theft cause it's not paying back what you owe... sure there's no taxes forcibly being collected, but it's still wrong.
Let's look at the difference between private debt. You lend me $200. Maybe I need to get my car fixed so I can go to work. I then go to my job, work for a while, and save up the money to pay you back. Here this is a healthy process. The debt is voluntary and constructive, so far no problem.
But what happens with public debt? An organization loans the government money, which is spent on war, giving to some favoured group or on interventions which stifle economic growth at home, with the understanding that the state will use it's power of taxation to mulct some unsuspecting sap of their money and pay them back. This is quite a different thing indeed. Instead of a healthy, voluntary activity this is a criminal conspiracy. The creditor knows full well that the government will use coercion to repay them. They're in on it; so if they get stiffed because the debt is repudiated, then that's what they deserve.
con says no taxes are justifiable. this just puts him in the category of a loon. a radical to say the least. how else are basic government functions suppose to be paid for? even the most ardent libertarians i know think there's some basic governance that's justifiable and hence a ittle tax is okay. his view more puts him into the category of an anarchist.
con says the people that loan to the government are in on the governments crimes. again almost no one thinks it's a crime to tax people... high taxes, maybe. but aside from that, even if i loan you a hundred dollars to buy drugs you still should pay me back. i dont know if a court would enforce it, but it's still the moral thing to do.
con is just trading on questionably moral thing for another questionably moral thing. id say he's going to a worse morality at that.
again con offers no real solutions. at least to the common man and no extremist fringe politics that he pushes.
It is a crime to tax people. You are saying to them 'give us your money, or we will hurt you'. This is quite literally the crime of extortion. This is the business model of the mafia. Pay your protection money or we will break your legs. Pay your taxes or you will rot in a cage surrendered by criminals. I agree, a personal loan of $100 to buy drugs (or to do anything) should be repaid. Drug buying may be 'malum prohibitum' but it is not 'malum in se'. But if I loan you $100, on the understanding that you will pay me back $125, which you will obtain by stealing the purses of old ladies, then I am scum for making this deal and deserve to get stiffed. Similarly, if I loan the government money with the understanding that they will threaten people with incarceration in order to take their hard earned income, then I deserve to get stiffed.
Do the responsible thing. Cut or better yet eliminate the taxes.
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