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getrekt20
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absolutes=existence

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vi_spex
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Started: 5/1/2015 Category: Religion
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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vi_spex

Pro

everything that exist is absolute in that it is what it is and not what it is not

a rock is absolute, it is a rock. nature is absolute, yes its not a machine and neither is your body, sry theists

it is absolute that there is no supernature in reality, it is absolute that there are is no knowledge of the future, it is absolute that you cant close your eyes and read on if you are human, its absolute that you are reading these words, its absolute that you are being now, as you read these words
getrekt20

Con

Hi, I'm getrekt20 and I look forward to debating with you.

I might need you to clarify on what you mean by "absolute".

Do you mean when something is absolute, you cannot change it? Or do you mean that when something is absolute, it should not be viewed in a metaphorical or absurd way?

Anywho, let's get started.

"everything that exist is absolute in that it is what it is and not what it is not

a rock is absolute, it is a rock. nature is absolute, yes its not a machine and neither is your body, sry theists"

I'm sure we've all been taught as a child that a rock is a rock. And regarding your other sentence, what you heard was probably an analogy of a comparison between machines and life. I would appreciate it if you could provide a source for this claim.


"it is absolute that there is no supernature in reality, it is absolute that there are is no knowledge of the future, it is absolute that you cant close your eyes and read on if you are human, its absolute that you are reading these words, its absolute that you are being now, as you read these words"



What is supernature? Supernature as in large forces caused by nature? Nature is a big topic and I need you to clarify what you mean by this.

There is no knowledge of the future that we can comfortable rely on; however, the human race is intelligent enough to predict events in the future.

Yes, it's absolute that I'm reading your words, but it seems that you have no reliable information about the idea of things being absolute. This isn't much of an argument.



Debate Round No. 1
vi_spex

Pro

absolute=no possibility

reality is not possible

anything that is created or constructed is a machine, and reality is not created

anything that is non intended is nature

supernature exceeds nature, cant be real, if superman was real he would be natural

supernature=imaginary

prediction is belief, not knowledge, i have no memory of the future, i have to imagine it

you are reading these words, it isnt something that can happen, it is happening, it isnt possible, just like it isnt possible that you are not reading these words, if you are..

reliable information is religion, religion=to rely on, while self is one

i know i am typing these words on my keyboard and reading them on my screen, i dont have to imagine it
getrekt20

Con

getrekt20 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 2
vi_spex

Pro

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getrekt20

Con

getrekt20 forfeited this round.
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Debate Round No. 4
vi_spex

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getrekt20

Con

getrekt20 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
im not sure what your question is aimed at
Posted by Lee001 1 year ago
Lee001
omg...really?
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