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anger can be a good moral motivation

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Started: 12/23/2013 Category: Philosophy
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Anamar86

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according to ARISTOTLE feelings are a big fact to change man as to effect their judgments, a man can also expect to be specially respected by his inferior in birth, in capacity, in goodness, and generally in anything in which he is much their superior as where money concern a wealthy man looks for respect from one who cannot speak, so in fact Aristotle states a way of great resentment being due to their great superiority. IT IS POSSIBLE THAT a man can be developed as a person and meets all this standards to in order to feel realized as man in a society or as moral motivation. According to Aristotle the person with whom we get angry re those who laugh, mock, or jeer at us for such conduct insolent, are those real feeling for a man to feel realized and anything can destroyed his self-stem. As a way to increase his frames, I believe it is POSSIBLE that a men meets all this standards to make his goals come truth. In fact this injuries must be such as are neither retaliatory according to Aristotle
LColon

Con

Well stated. I do agree with Aristotle in regards to the fact that emotions in general, including anger can alter a mans state of judgement. It is true as well that often times people are angry because of insolence's they may be facing such as being mocked, laughed at or even being put down or feeling inferior to others in which they may consider that should be the opposite. However, as Seneca states anger has such a strong hold on us emotionally that it can practically blind us if we do not from the very first sign of irritation break it off. IT IS POSSIBLE that if we fail to break those initial ties that we may be heading down wards. We will be as he states, "like men out of military dress in war." To posses the virtues of moral and intellectual one, they need no vice to assist it. They can be obtained through other methods such as the suppression of desire, the acceptance of the worst and not fearing anything or at least to the minimum as Epictetus would also agree and state.
Debate Round No. 1
Anamar86

Pro

So do you think that suppression can work? IT IS NOT NECESSARY THE CASE THAT a man have to use suppression to control his state of mind. Aristotle mentioned that some emotions if well used serve as an arms. Probably he used it as example in self-defend in a moment of he needs to be defend. Having the feeling that something have to be done is an excuse to use any arm to make this done.IT IS IRRELEVANT to the case or it is? Aristotle's says that there are something suffered so to speak not something done by the mind. Emotions is not a matter, however even though can change the state of mind, it don't decide over us, in our actions, and attitudes. We have the power to decide and keep in control. I support this supporting Aristotle opinion when he said that anger is more than a set of motions, since is an act of impulse, and that impulse never occur without the minds accepts. so in other world our feelings cannot be controlled, but our actions, in how to react does, if so why getting out of our control to do something that can be prejudicial.
LColon

Con

IT IS NOT NECESSARILY THE CASE THAT feelings cannot be controlled. Epictetus and Seneca have given clear statements of recognizing what is and what isn't in our control. Deciding not to control your emotions is in your control and a choice that you can make. Reasoning allows time for one to think things through while anger just hurries things along. If we desire to be better people morally we must first accept as Seneca states that no one is faultless in anything. As he says as well, anger mostly begins in our power and if not contained then it can turn into things are no longer in our control. IT IS NOT NECESSARILY THE CASE THAT anger provides the equipment needed to be courageous but rather to be cowardly.
Debate Round No. 2
Anamar86

Pro

IT IS POSSIBLE that your statements are tight with their opinions and facts. However in our hands to control what produces us angers and the way we react toward those feelings. even though Seneca and Aristotle states their points, telling us the differences between them and how to prepared our minds, is also a hard issue how to deal with this feelings in a determinant moment. We can control those feelings, and also we can control the state of mind and decisions we make toward them in in our hand prepare our minds to upcoming issues and respond well and with a fresh into solve this situations that we often face. Work in an calm stage of mind is in a way to prepare our mind to anything to supposed to come later, without lose the mind or temper, if so at the end we can control most of the things around us, in concern to feelings and how to face them, also how to prepare our mind for upcoming issues and be ready for them. Follow Aristotle and Seneca anger guidelines could be a good motive, however the moment will determinate the action.
LColon

Con

IT IS POSSIBLE as you"ve mentioned before that if the emotions are well used they can serve as arms, as Aristotle states. However it goes further as to state that it can only be true if like real war weapons one can pick up and set it down when one chooses to do so. But when we allow our emotions to run us downward blindly we are like men filled with rage running into battle unsuited and without the proper armor. Seneca states that, "reason by itself is enough not merely for foresight but for action." As mentioned before, If we allow ourselves the time to think and reason, if we cut off the first sign of irritation, if we control that which is in our control, accept and expected the worst, then can we control our anger and not allow the emotional hurt to affect anything in a negative way. We can than stand strong ad firm, balanced, tempered. Reasoning to seek protection or punishment in a negative temper will only produce and bring about negative results and continue the cycle. Reasoning helps us to pass fair judgement and make better decisions outside of anger.
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