The Instigator
xxHellogoodbyexx
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roycegee
Pro (for)
Winning
22 Points

animal testing

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 4/6/2008 Category: Society
Updated: 8 years ago Status: Voting Period
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xxHellogoodbyexx

Con

Why should animals have to suffer for our society to make medicines and makeup for humans. just because they dont have a voice to speak, makes them an easy target to take advantage of for their own uses. Its very selfish and unnesscary. Why dont we make people get tested on these prodcuts, what makes animals the target for being abused in such unbelievable ways. What makes animals different then humans? every year 100 millon animals are killed just so your hair stays in place?
roycegee

Pro

Hello.

The reason my opponent votes negative on Animal Testing is because animals do not deserve the cruelties put upon them. However, my opponents alternative is flawed for the following reasons.

1. It is essential in scientific and technological advances. As long as pain and suffering for the animals is minimized, I believe that it is acceptable to use testing on animals as opposed to having humans go through the same process. That said, it is very impractical to have humans endure these tests.

2. It would prevent any harmful side-effects had the testing been done on humans. The ethics is questionable. However, it is widely believed that the value of a human is MUCH greater than the value on an animal. It is undebatable that we, as people, would rather have someone else do something. As long as everyone accepts this fact, there are no ethical dilemmas.

In summary, I believe that animal testing is VERY desirable and the ethical issues are outweighed by the benefits of using them as opposed to human beings. My opponents argument is loose and the alternative is impractical and may cause danger to human beings.
Debate Round No. 1
xxHellogoodbyexx

Con

Why is it so impractical for humans to endure this? what makes them so different than animals? why are animals more greater and more important than animals, they are larger and consume more? that i believe is no excuse. we basically already test the products ourselves. Would you look at a bottle of body lotion, body soap, makeup and say iam going to put it in my mouth..... probally not... so why would you force down someone else's throat. If you think its alright and just natural to do so..... we should shove you in cages and shove tubes down your throat, force foreign objects down your throat and beat you senslessly. And you still have the heart to say thats okay?
roycegee

Pro

The excuse does not revolve on capacity to consume. It deals with the human values we believe are fundamental to mankind. We are more important. Selfish as it seems, a human's collective thinking would contradict. Would you seriously consider killing a man before killing a chicken? This is why it is legal to kill an animal for eating. It is not, however, legal for someone to kill a human, especially for cannibalism (crime against humanity). It is undebatable that human nature leads us to believe that we are more important than any other animal. Why so? That is irrelevant to the resolution. It is only used for comparison. On the other hand, with my opponent's logic a person should die in place for a chicken.
That said, I would like to add that I believe cruel treatment of animals is wrong. However, my opponents alternative is clearly contradictory to most beliefs. If a couple of chickens have to die in order to create a cure for cancer, so be it. I extend all my arguments made in the previous round. I have voided all rebuttals and await any further argument in round 3.
Debate Round No. 2
xxHellogoodbyexx

Con

no further arguments..... thank you opponent for your participation.
I still believe there should be a better alternative to animal testing and hope we solve soon into the future.... thank you!

Thank you, best regards!
roycegee

Pro

My opponent hasn't responded to any arguments.
I extend all arguments.

xxhellogoodbyexx I had a great time debating with you. Thank you for making this debate possible.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by ronnyyip 8 years ago
ronnyyip
The best question arrives here, who has not eaten meat here. I 'm sure XhelloGoodByexx has eaten meat. Since you have you just contradicted yourself with the value you place in this round.
Posted by roycegee 8 years ago
roycegee
Please do not vote with bias. In reality, my own beliefs contradict my position on this debate. Judge the debate on the debate itself and not your own beliefs.
Posted by ronnyyip 8 years ago
ronnyyip
also your analogy of us being test products is really irrelevant to today's debate. First, you provide no evidence that we show these lotions down to animal's mouth or whatsoever. Secondly, all scientists do is apply lotion like we apply them. The reason they do it on animals though is to see if it causes skin irritation. They don't force them to eat any lotion or products you say as they will be pointless to test. They are not testing if you digest a product, will you be poison or dead. They are just testing to see if it's harmful on the skin. So your analogy's importance fail as you advocate that scientists will shove lotions down animals or test subject's mouth. And yes I still have heart to say all this. If you believe than your mom is equal to an animal. You are the real heartless one since your mother gave birth to you where as an animal is feeling less and never treated you any better than your mother. If you were to use them as test product to save your mother, you wouldn't do so? That's what i thought
Posted by ronnyyip 8 years ago
ronnyyip
lmao funny arguments you make, if you advocate that animals should essentially have equal rights as human than i don't think you should be using a computer to continue this debate as other animals don't have luxury to use this either. and if we aren't better than animals how come i don't see any animal ruling us or taking control over anything other than creating more problems for us such as aids.

Also the reason it's impractical for humans to endure this because we outweigh the consequences done to animal. Would you rather have your family die or your animal. I think it's an obvious choice as research shows animals have no feelings and if you do choose humans to be test subjects than you are the real murder as you are hurting feelings of humans that have been tested to exist.
Posted by roycegee 8 years ago
roycegee
FYI, I'm not going to take this debate TOO seriously.
Just for the heck of it.
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