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GUMMYBEARS
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anything that is created has a beginning, and matter is eternal, so god didnt create everythi

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Started: 10/28/2014 Category: Science
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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vi_spex

Pro

creation=beginning
destruction=end
transformation=from something to something

matter can only transform
GUMMYBEARS

Con

What exactly are you talking about? What is transformation? I understand the rest,just not the transformation part,like do you mean a soul from one body to another body maybe?
Debate Round No. 1
vi_spex

Pro

you cant the matter that is an apple nothing, at best transform it. souls doesn't matter, but souls can also only be transformed as information has no end
GUMMYBEARS

Con

I still don't understand what you are trying to get across sorry.
Debate Round No. 2
vi_spex

Pro

the god claim is, that god created everything, and I am saying, god didn't create everything, because matter has no beginning, and everything that is created has a beginning, therefore matter is not created, as it has no beginning

anything that is created has a beginning, and matter is eternal(no beginning and no end), therefore god didn't create everything
GUMMYBEARS

Con

Ok so what is your definition of Mitterrand who made matter? Who created matter?
Debate Round No. 3
vi_spex

Pro

matter has no beginning, everything always existed, therefore it was not created
GUMMYBEARS

Con

Does matter include animals and if so how did animals become?
Debate Round No. 4
vi_spex

Pro

sun+moon=Earth

earth=life

all natural change is chaos, but my source is sun :)
GUMMYBEARS

Con

So earth created life?
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
know=physical experience of now

I have no beliefs, I know my experience of now

I know I am typing these words on my keyoard and reading them on my screen, I can imagine what my neighbor Is doing and believe in it, I cant believe in reality, and I cant now imagination(unless its absolute)
Posted by GUMMYBEARS 2 years ago
GUMMYBEARS
So you only believe in things you can touch feal and hear?
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
no I don't believe in god, I have no beliefs. mean souls are imaginary, stories, and you cant delete or destroy a story either, like with matter
Posted by GUMMYBEARS 2 years ago
GUMMYBEARS
Do you not believe in God or what no trying to be personal or anything.
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
btw only transformation is possible in reality, never creation and destruction
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
antimatter is information, nothing, and matter is something, and they can never collide
Posted by BoggyDag 2 years ago
BoggyDag
Matter is NOT eternal. If matter and antimatter collide, both cease to exist.
What is this garbled mess of a resolution?
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
no.. only the time of now is true

air is time fpr eksample, and there is air in earth and water
Posted by Tolkien 2 years ago
Tolkien
Humans idea of Time and the universe are GREATLY restricted by our limited perception. The human brain is designed to perceive and problem solve on such a smaller scale.
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
big bang states time has a beginning, matter Is space and space is time, matter has no beginning
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