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ascended into heaven - verses do not contradict each other

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Started: 7/26/2014 Category: Religion
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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linate

Pro

ascended into heaven - verses do not contradict each other

John 3:13
states, "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven."

2 Kings 2:1
And it came to pass, when the LORD would take up Elijah into heaven by a whirlwind, that Elijah went with Elisha from Gilgal.
2 Kings 2:11
And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.

" The Bible does not say that Elijah ascended to heaven. It says that he was taken up. The word 'ascend' means to go up. It pictures someone or something that goes up of its own strength. The word 'ascend' comes from the Latin word for 'climb' and it literally means to climb up. We speak of someone ascending the stairs. The first biblical use of the word is in Genesis 28:12 where Jacob sees "a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven: and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it.

John 3:13 does not teach that no one has ever seen or entered heaven. It teaches that no man ever climbed up into heaven by his own power. The only one who has ever ascended to heaven in His own strength is the One who originated in heaven and came down to earth before He ascended."
leonitus2464

Con

first off id like to bring up murder. these are just a few verses where the bible contradicts thou shalt not kill.

" Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel"Deuteronomy 17:12

"You should not let a sorceress live"Exodus 22:17

"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives"Leviticus 20:13

"A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death"Leviticus 20:27

second in the flood story god said he would never destroy the human race ever again yet in revelations its all about how he will destroy the world.
Debate Round No. 1
linate

Pro

con must not have read the opening post. i was comparing two specific verses, and con went off on tangents on other verses he finds problems with.
leonitus2464

Con

the debate is about biblical contradictions if im correct.
Debate Round No. 2
linate

Pro

read the title of the debate and the first post.

there's no way you can conclude that talking about any putative contradiction is sufficient to engage in this debate.
leonitus2464

Con

my apologies
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by leonitus2464 2 years ago
leonitus2464
i accept
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