atheism is a theism, belief to the contrary
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i dont know=i have to imagine it=i can at best imagine it
i dont know means, i have to imagine it, i can at best imagine it, so if i take my hand behind my back, is my claim that i am showing 3 fingers behind my back true? you can also disbelieve my claim, maybe i am showing 4 fingers
*This is with the assumption that the most holy unicorn does not acknowledge the lesser beings that call themselves deities like Banjo the Clown, God of Puppets, or recognize their existence.
According to your definition of atheism, your understanding of the correlation between atheism and theism is correct, as it is a circular reasoning fallacy (a * b therefore b * a). My understanding of atheism and I suspect most readers understanding of atheism are different from yours, Mr. Turtle.
All hail the mighty unicorn with a horn so sharp and pointy. All fellow believers of the one true unicorn are not "atheist" to Christianity, because they believe in the unicorn. They are" what is the word that means believers of one faith, but not all faiths... religious? Devout?
With the assumption that the thumb is a finger and the word up means stretched out from the bulk of the hand, the chance of you holding up three fingers behind your back is 31.25%. This is not a belief, but rather a calculation of odds given the possibilities. There is no way to know how many fingers you choose to hold up behind your back. Are you trying to make a claim that there is a correlation between holding up fingers behind your back and atheism requiring belief?
i am saying, in order for there to be any atheist, there must be an argument to defend that position, that is the belief, the god that is believed in by the atheist
and belief is belief in god
if a=b, then b=a
if you change the claim to not be a counter belief position then you takes atheism out of the equatio.. but you are esentially arguing for me
so its true i am showing 3 fingers behind my back?
if i show you 3 fingers with my hand, and you see 3 fingers, do you believe my claim that i am showing you a full hand?
Excluding the tribal people from places like New Guinea and exclusively discussing the atheists who live in religious society, these individuals have a multitude of reasons for being atheists. These people would clearly have a conception of what a god may or should be.
So the question would be "do these people disbelieve in a god or do these people not have a belief in a god"? Not having a desire to speak for everyone within this group, a reasonable answer would be that some people disbelieve and some people do not have a belief.
"if i show you 3 fingers with my hand, and you see 3 fingers, do you believe my claim that i am showing you a full hand?" You would be showing me your full hand.
With examples like the chicken and the egg, are you trying say that we all have beliefs about the unknown?
atheism has an absolute definition
belief is unknown
i am saying, the theist, is the egg, but the egg is the chicken
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