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johnrasheed
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Kleptin
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atheism is not a religon

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Started: 2/8/2008 Category: Religion
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
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johnrasheed

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ahteism is not a religon because how can you believe that you dont believe in something. Its an oxymoron if you think about it and people think this set of ideas is a religion.
Kleptin

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A religion is defined as a set of beliefs that are held with ardor and faith.

Atheism is the belief that deities do not exist. This satisfies the criteria of faith.

Atheists hold to their reasons for believing that deities do not exist. This satisfies the criteria of ardor.

Atheism is in and of itself a doctrine of faith because the expression of a stance is still a belief.

As of yet, neither side, Theist or Atheist, has any concrete evidence supporting their point. Thus, both sides hold on to their opinions with the foundation of faith, faith that their arguments or beliefs are true.

Atheists declare that God does not exist, and this makes it a belief. If they were merely to declare that there is no hard evidence for the existence of God, then it would not be a belief but an actual fact.
Debate Round No. 1
johnrasheed

Pro

johnrasheed forfeited this round.
Kleptin

Con

Since my opponent ahs forfeited that round, I should refine my argument.

I hold that atheism is a religion because it is an organized belief system based on faith.

Atheism is the conclusion that deities do not exist. This is not a logical coclusion to the evidence we have today. Objectively speaking, we can make the statement "There is not enough evidence to show that deities exist", but to argue that they absolutely do NOT is a belief held to with faith and ardor, the definition of a religious belief.
Debate Round No. 2
johnrasheed

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johnrasheed forfeited this round.
Kleptin

Con

Polka dots has been stalking my debates and since my opponent has not made any sort of argument this round, I will address my stalker's comment.

There are four definitions of religion provided by Merriam Webster

1 a: the state of a religious b (1): the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2): commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance

2: a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices

3archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness

4: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith
— re�li�gion�less adjective

The first and second use the word "religious" in the definition, so I nullify those. The third is archaic, so I will use the alst definition.

Religion is a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith.

This is the definition I used in the last round.

My opponent has decided not to show and since it is pointless to reiterate my argument TWICE in a row, I will simply end my response here.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by solo 9 years ago
solo
Well, you can't be Jewish and eat pork, nor can you be Hindu and eat beef... so does that make pork and/or beef eating a *kind* of religion too? No, atheism is not a religion whatsoever; not even a *kind* of a religion.
Posted by Novan_Leon 9 years ago
Novan_Leon
You can't be Christian and Atheist or Muslim and Atheist, the two are mutually exclusive, therefore Atheism is a *kind* of religion.
Posted by solo 9 years ago
solo
*sigh* Atheism is NOT a religion, but Pro did such a lame thing by forfeiting that I had to vote for Kleptin as he debated the topic... and he did it well.
Posted by polka-dots323 9 years ago
polka-dots323
But where is the faith based on? It would be considered a beleif system, but not a religion. Religion: the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices

What are your practices? Who/ What do you worship?
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