The Instigator
vi_spex
Pro (for)
Losing
4 Points
The Contender
Deadpool_is_god
Con (against)
Winning
14 Points

atheism is theism

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Deadpool_is_god
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 11/25/2014 Category: Religion
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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Debate Rounds (5)
Comments (17)
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vi_spex

Pro

by joining you accept the debate and agree to answer the question below

am I holding a rock in my hand? you have to imagine it
Deadpool_is_god

Con

Man, what are you saying! I chose this debate because i'm curious.
Debate Round No. 1
vi_spex

Pro

answer the question :)
Debate Round No. 2
vi_spex

Pro

I know I have a rock in my hand
Deadpool_is_god

Con

Actually, I refuse to believe that. I need proof
Debate Round No. 3
vi_spex

Pro

why do you need proof of anything when you know I don't have a rock in my hand?
Deadpool_is_god

Con

Ok man, what is the point of this debate, are you trying to prove anything?
Debate Round No. 4
vi_spex

Pro

the proof is why you are dodging my question
Deadpool_is_god

Con

I'm not dodging anything. You asked the question, I said no!
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
useless debates here, 5 rounds is just sad
Posted by Deadpool_is_god 2 years ago
Deadpool_is_god
I actually did not understand the question, so I just replied randomly.
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
yees :)

if I don't know is true, disbelieving a claim can not simultaneously be a true position for me as i know I don't know, and know is true

I don't know=I have to imagine it
kNow=physical experience of now
Posted by yoshidino 2 years ago
yoshidino
I do kind of see a good point to what pro was doing... whether or not pro has proof that he is holding a rock does not change whether or not the statement was true. He either was or wasn't holding the rock, so therefore, the statement was either true or false. The correct answer for Con to reply would have been, "I don't know," be cause, in fact, there was absolutely no way of knowing for sure. The answer "no" was very presumptuous and arrogant. He assumed simply on the grounds of no evidence that Pro's statement was false, even though in fact, he didn't know. This is EXACTLY what atheists do.
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
I think you are trying to understand god is information
Posted by GDNE 2 years ago
GDNE
I think vi_spex was trying to say that atheism takes faith. He probably isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
there must be a true answer if there is a false answer
Posted by Soul.Purge 2 years ago
Soul.Purge
Out of luck, maybe. If there is no information suggesting any of answers, then its basically make-a-guess-question. You could had provided information from which it might be possible to have true answer, but you did not. You chose it to be a guess question. It takes away all your rights to ask for reasonable explanation of said choise-it was a guess.
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
I wanted him to admit he dosnt know that's all

I don't need to provide any information for you to have a true answer to the question
Posted by Soul.Purge 2 years ago
Soul.Purge
Also you are catching him on words. If you ask a question with several possible answers, while providing no extra information (such as deductive) you are essentially asking him to guess, or, at least, making it appear as if you do. Only piece of evidence/information you present is claim of your personal experience. When this claim is rejected, since personal experience of another person do not necessary lead to said logical conclusion, you shift your goal-post and start acting as if initial question wasn't supposed to be question of guessing.
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Vote Placed by lannan13 2 years ago
lannan13
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro had terrible grammar. The rest of this debate is just too confusing.
Vote Placed by yoshidino 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Con had no way of knowing the answer to the question, and yet, out of faith, he answered no.
Vote Placed by Gabe1e 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: This wasn't a debate, but conduct to Con because Pro really didn't say anything to relate to "atheism is theism" also, Pro's arguments didn't relate either, so arguments to Con.
Vote Placed by NoMagic 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: vi-spex doesn't make any arguments
Vote Placed by 9spaceking 2 years ago
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Reasons for voting decision: pro gave no proof. He could've just taken a picture....or better yet, present a meme..... *facepalm