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batman is better than superman

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Started: 7/30/2015 Category: Funny
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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brianjustin3709

Con

Thanks for accepting this debate.

We will have 3 rounds. Our first round is introducing and the rest is information.

Logical-Master

Pro

My name is Logical-Master and I accept!
Debate Round No. 1
brianjustin3709

Con

Here is a list of their powers.

Batman
  1. Rich
  2. can fly for limited time
  3. human
  4. technology
  5. limited powers

Superman
  1. Not human
  2. Can only die by one thing
  3. many powers
  4. poor
  5. fly
  6. shoot laser
  7. cold wind

Superman is better because he can"t die easily and he has powers

Superman is better than Batman. You read that correctly. And it"s not a joke, either. In fact, it can be proven.
But before that happens, it is important to clarify exactly what this debate is about. The argument is not over which hero is cooler (if that were the case, it"d have to be the guy in black). Rather, this is to examine which hero does his job best"that is to say, which hero kicks the most bad-guy butt and successfully saves the day. And by those qualifications, there is no arguing that the best man for the job is the Man of Steel, Superman himself. And here"s why:

Superman doesn"t need weapons to win a fight

Superman can take care of business any time, any place, and all on his own. Sure, Batman"s gadgets are cool, but they are hardly practical. If you catch the caped crusader with his utility belt down, Bruce Wayne is just a normal defenseless guy. Superman, on the other hand, is always ready for action. Not to mention, a hero who can fly doesn"t need to make pit stops to refuel his batmobile and he certainly doesn"t need to reload in the middle of a fight.

Superman is a hero for all the right reasons

Superman fights crime to protect people. Batman fights crime out of his own personal vendetta. In essence, Batman is the result of a moody kid who never got over his childhood problems. So now, this guy takes out his repressed frustrations by wearing all black and attacking other people in the streets. In many social circles, this sort of schoolyard bullying would be considered "reckless" and "immature." It"s the exact kind of behavior that Superman sets out to prevent.

Batman hits girls

Sure, Superman has had a few female foes, but they were hardly a challenge for the Man of Steel. Batman, on the other hand, is constantly fighting with Catwoman, Poison Ivy, and others. Maybe we're old fashioned, but this just isn"t classy.

Superman doesn"t need a sidekick

He gets the job done all on his own. Batman, on the other hand, is always hanging out with Robin"the boy gymnast in a Speedo. Not only is this suggestive of Batman"s own inefficiencies to save the day, but quite frankly, its also a little bit creepy.

Superman would win in a fight

Just think about it. Batman uses firearms"Superman is faster than a speeding bullet. Batman utilizes the batmobile to defeat his enemies"Superman is more powerful than a locomotive. Batman hides out in Wayne towers"Superman can leap tall buildings in a single bound. Advantage: Superman.

It is also notable to mention that Superman is an actual superhero with actual superpowers. Batman, in comparison, is just a Billionaire with a hobby. This would be like Donald Trump moonlighting as a vigilante. Sure it"s an entertaining concept, but let"s leave the real work to the most iconic hero ever created.

And one more thing"Superman can save people in the daytime. This matters.

Also I will say 10 more ways that Superman is better

#10

X-ray vision. What guy wouldn't kill for that? (Admit it. You once ordered those glasses out of the back of a comic book just to see if they'd work.)

9
Superman can shoot lasers out of his eyes. All Batman can do with his eyes is look mean.

#8

Batman relies on some pimply teenage kid to help him fight crime. Superman doesn't need a sidekick.

#7

Superman believes in law and order. He doesn't compromise his morality to catch the bad guy. Batman will cross any line to catch a criminal. He's lost sight of what it means to be a superhero.

#6

Superman: well-adjusted orphan. Batman: self-destructive orphan with serious abandonment issues.

#5

Superman is happily married to a superhot reporter. Batman has meaningless relationships with women he doesn't care about (and who only want his money) because he's afraid to show his true feelings.

#4

Superman works for a living like the rest of us. Batman is just some spoiled rich kid who lives off a trust fund his daddy left him.

#3

Superman can make the earth spin backwards and reverse time to save the woman he loves. Batman, not so much.

#2

Superman can fly. Batman swings from a rope.

#1

Bottom line: In a fight, Superman would crush the "Dark Knight" like a little girl.




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Logical-Master

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Without Question, Batman is Better than Superman!

Good evening Debate Dot Org! My name is Logical-Master and I will representing the PRO position that Batman is indeed better than Superman!

In his second round of this two round debate, CON has opted to clarify on what he means by “better.” He states that “the argument is not over which hero is cooler (if that were the case, it"d have to be the guy in black) . . . this is to examine which hero does his job best"that is to say, which hero kicks the most bad-guy butt and successfully saves the day.”

However, CON is greatly mistaken in his belief that Superman exceeds Batman in this capacity. Having many super powers is great and all, but the problem with Superman is that he often does not know what to do with them. Take for example the film, Superman. [1](first video). Lex Luthor actually tricks Superman into opening a box of kryptonite. Superman, knowing full well that the villain can’t be trusted, willfully opens the box, not for a moment suspecting it’s a trap. If not for dumb luck, this would’ve surely been the man of steel’s demise. Superman didn’t even need to walk into the trap. He could’ve simply gone ahead with catching the two missiles Lex had intended to launch.

A careful reading of Superman literature reveals this to be a consistent outcome of their encounters. Lex, having no super powers, frequently uses his mind to outwit his sworn enemy, usually only losing in the end due to his own arrogance. In the first video posted, Lex Luthor doesn’t stick around to make sure Mr. Kent hasn’t been vanquished. In the second, he makes the exact same mistake.[2](second video) What we can learn from Mr. Luthor’s exploits is very simple. Brain beats brawn. It is my position that Batman, having Lex Luthor’s brains but not his arrogance, is clearly better than Superman. Afterall, Batman has actually beaten Lex Luthor.[3] I believe addressing CON’s points will greatly demonstrate this.


RE: Superman is better because he can"t die easily and he has powers

As we see with Superman’s troubles against Lex Luthor, a villain whose primary asset in his intelligence, having super powers isn’t everything. Despite all of superman’s powers, he’s nearly been beaten and killed by this intelligent bald man with no super powers many times throughout his career. Batman has this intelligence, but unlike Lex, is not arrogant. Because of this, Batman has not only battled Superman, but has also won.[4](third video)



RE: Superman doesn"t need weapons to win a fight

Superman may not use weapons, but it’s this sort of overconfidence that allows him to be bested by the likes Lex Luthor and every villain on the planet with a chunk of green rock time and time again. Superman actually possesses a lead suit to help him deal with kryptonite but foolishly only wears every once in a blue moon. Batman realizes his limitations and thus uses gadgets. He also makes it a habit to prepare for every possible contingency.[5]


RE: Superman is a hero for all the right reasons

It doesn’t what one thinks of one’s motivations to be a hero. We’re talking about who is the better hero. Besides, it’s Batman’s pain of loss that endlessly drives him to fight evil. Superman simply fights crime because he’s a boy scout.

RE: Batman hits girls

Batman believes in equality and doesn’t needlessly distinguish between male and female crime. If anything, that’s bad heroing. Disregarding the antics of a female crook is sure to get people killed!


RE: Superman doesn"t need a sidekick

Superman is arrogant and inefficient. Having more help is good thing. If he brought help more often, maybe he wouldn’t need to rely on a dumb luck every time Lex Luthor makes him look like an idiot by tricking him into touching kryptonite. Instead, his sidekick could help him out.


RE: Superman would win in a fight

See my youtube video. Batman has won.

RE: X-ray vision. What guy wouldn't kill for that? (Admit it. You once ordered those glasses out of the back of a comic book just to see if they'd work.)

See above points on super powers not being everything. Also, Batman has like a kajillion dollars and is constantly showered with gorgeous women. What guy wouldn’t kill for that? ;)


RE: Superman can shoot lasers out of his eyes. All Batman can do with his eyes is look mean.

See above points on super powers not being everything. Also, the patented bat glare makes Batman even more terrifying according to even the most experienced criminals, practically making Lex Luthor wet his pants.[6]

RE: Batman relies on some pimply teenage kid to help him fight crime. Superman doesn't need a sidekick.

Asked and answered.

RE: Superman believes in law and order. He doesn't compromise his morality to catch the bad guy. Batman will cross any line to catch a criminal. He's lost sight of what it means to be a superhero.

Batman has a very clear line. He doesn’t kill.[7]

RE: Superman: well-adjusted orphan. Batman: self-destructive orphan with serious abandonment issues.

Batman’s past makes him very dedicated to fight crime. Superman’s past is simply him doing what his mother tell him to do, making him a momma’s boy and a boy scout.

RE: Superman is happily married to a superhot reporter. Batman has meaningless relationships with women he doesn't care about (and who only want his money) because he's afraid to show his true feelings.

And yet how many times have all the villains known to capture Lois Lane? Having one consistent love interest makes it easy for the villains to know how to bring Superman to his knees. We’re talking about who’s better at fighting crime here. Clearly, Batman’s meaningless relationships are better for him in regards to the actual debate.

RE: Superman works for a living like the rest of us. Batman is just some spoiled rich kid who lives off a trust fund his daddy left him.

What does any of that have to do with being a hero? LMAO.

RE: Superman can make the earth spin backwards and reverse time to save the woman he loves. Batman, not so much.

Again, super powers aren’t everything. See above.

RE: Superman can fly. Batman swings from a rope.

See above.

RE: Bottom line: In a fight, Superman would crush the "Dark Knight" like a little girl

And yet we see the exact opposite in my video.



The RealBottomline:

Superman has some great assets, but Batman is better without question. Brain beats brawn. Below is picture of Batman making Superman his chump on short notice.


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That tells you everything you need to know. Vote PRO!

Sources

[1] https://www.youtube.com...

[2] https://www.youtube.com...

[3] http://batmanfeats.blogspot.com... (scroll down to Lex Luthor feats)

[4] https://www.youtube.com...

[5] http://batmanfeats.blogspot.com... (feats in general)

[6] https://www.youtube.com...

[7] https://www.youtube.com...

Debate Round No. 2
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Posted by brianjustin3709 1 year ago
brianjustin3709
yup
Posted by Logical-Master 1 year ago
Logical-Master
Our arguments were much too compelling for their to be a winner!
Posted by DebateChampion1 1 year ago
DebateChampion1
superman is so much better :)
Posted by brianjustin3709 1 year ago
brianjustin3709
introduce/accept
Posted by Logical-Master 1 year ago
Logical-Master
So in my first round, I just "introduce" myself or am I supposed to argue?
Posted by brianjustin3709 1 year ago
brianjustin3709
no
Posted by Logical-Master 1 year ago
Logical-Master
This looks like two rounds to me. You did mean three, right?
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