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dairygirl4u2c
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spencetheguy
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bible is not perfectly the word of God

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Started: 1/3/2008 Category: Religion
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
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dairygirl4u2c

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the outrageousness speaks for itself.

---When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

--Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)
If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.

---Let the women keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but let them subject themselves, just as the law says. And if they desire to learn anything, let thorn ask their own husbands at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak in church."
I Cor 14:34.35

----"When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion." Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB

-----Exodus 22:16, where we read "If a man seduces a virgin who is not betrothed, and lies with her, he shall give the marriage present for her, and make her his wife." But when we look at the verse immediately following, we get a whole different picture. In verse 17 we read, "If her father utterly refuses to give her to him, he shall pay money equivalent to the marriage present for virgins."

--Kill Your Neighbors
(Moses) stood at the entrance to the camp and shouted, "All of you who are on the LORD's side, come over here and join me." And all the Levites came. He told them, "This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: Strap on your swords! Go back and forth from one end of the camp to the other, killing even your brothers, friends, and neighbors." The Levites obeyed Moses, and about three thousand people died that day. Then Moses told the Levites, "Today you have been ordained for the service of the LORD, for you obeyed him even though it meant killing your own sons and brothers. Because of this, he will now give you a great blessing." (Exodus 32:26-29 NLT)

---2 Kings 2:23-24
"Elisha Is Jeered
23 From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some youths came out of the town and jeered at him. "Go on up, you baldhead!" they said. "Go on up, you baldhead!" 24 He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the LORD. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the youths."
Now, granted,they made fun of him. But c'mon. Plus, why doesn't this tstuff happen nowadays?

even if these are not the way things are done anymore, it still does not answer why it ever was, and by "God"'s command
spencetheguy

Con

hello again
for your argument that is nonexixtant i say prove it. prove your point. you stated several bible verses that you obviously disagree with but they are not horrible. they all teach moral values that we should emulate. so i say to you. argue and debate. i cannot read your mind.
Debate Round No. 1
dairygirl4u2c

Pro

so you think women should marry their rapists?
or, you think times can change what is truth?

or you think a woman shaving her head is necessary response to the culture of those times?

or you tihnk when a rapist doesn't treat the woman right, she's suddenly socially acceptable such that she can now not have to marry the guy? it seems more like the reason they had to marry is because she was now unclean and needed to marry the rapist.
spencetheguy

Con

i will respond to your arguments when you have demonstrated that you have attempted to understand mine. all the answers to your questions can be derived from my previous statement.
Debate Round No. 2
dairygirl4u2c

Pro

dairygirl4u2c forfeited this round.
spencetheguy

Con

sweet
this girl starts easy debates and does not finish them
everyone, vote for me and boost my %!!!
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by Thoreau 9 years ago
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Dairygirl4u2c, I'm beginning to think that you pre-write your points and don't actually pay attention to the points being discussed; you used the exact same response (down to the wording) that you used with me. Granted, here it is a logical response (though your argument remains flawed due to the subjectivity of morality), but in our debate it had very little to do with what I was saying. If you started paying more attention to the debates, and responding to each argument in a unique and relevant way, maybe you'd win more.

Or maybe you're a bot...
Posted by solo 9 years ago
solo
This old chestnut? Again?
Posted by RMK 9 years ago
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Why do you keep attempting this debate?
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