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p1mp1na1n7eazy
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Yraelz
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border defense

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Started: 3/13/2008 Category: Politics
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
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p1mp1na1n7eazy

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we should have border defense because we dont want a bunch of immagrents taking over the USA they will take over our jobs and take our welfare for our people that is why we should have the fence
Yraelz

Con

Para normal I have no idea why someone has challanged me to a debate, but I generally accept challenges so I might as well this one.

That being said I think my opponent for extending this interesting challenge to me.

Thus I present my case in some ammount of points.

1. There is absolutely no impact to my opponents argument, we haven't had a border defense before now and we haven't seen the impacts, why are we going to start seeing impacts now.

2. I ask that my opponent prove the impact on this issue, until he can there is nothing I can argue against.

3. I contest that they are not stealing jobs but rather taking unimportant jobs such as dish washing, picking fruit, or construction. This has multiple benefits.

a. Acts as an incentive for American's to get a degree past high school, in turn increasing the potential of America as a world competitor.

b. Restaurants can pay their dishwashers less in turn charging less money for the food you eat when going to the restaurant.

c. Contractors can higher workers to build houses for less, meaning the cost of a new house decreases. This in turn makes it easier for the person in "a" to get a new house right out of college.

d. Fruits and vegetables can be farmed at a lower cost, this allows the land owners to sell the fruits and vegetables at a lower cost while making a greater profit. This not only helps the agriculture industry but helps everyone who goes to the grocery store.

e. The nice thing about illegal immigrants is that when we get sick of them, or feel that they aren't being beneficial we can just deport them without actually having to follow any legal bureaucracy. This saves us money through not having to house people in our jails. (As much as I hate this capitalist viewpoint....)

4. My final point for now. One that Americans don't seem to realize. Everyone on this earth is a human. The fact that someone is of a Mexican origin or an American (U.S) origin is of no consequence. Should a baby be given less of an opportunity simply because he or she was not born in the United States? Simply because he/she did not have the fortunate opportunity of being born into our special club? Birth is one of the most horrible ways to classify people, such classifications have lead to such startling events as the holocaust. In which an entire ethnicity felt itself superior because they were born the way they were. Such classifications should not be upheld my the United States government.
Debate Round No. 1
p1mp1na1n7eazy

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p1mp1na1n7eazy forfeited this round.
Yraelz

Con

Extend all of my points...................................................................................... 100 characters.

Grammar is my friend.
Debate Round No. 2
p1mp1na1n7eazy

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p1mp1na1n7eazy forfeited this round.
Yraelz

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Sweet, extend all my arguments. Vote for me on lack of refutation I suppose. Or the fact that my arguments have characters, never mind 100.
Debate Round No. 3
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Posted by GKH 9 years ago
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Taxes we pay them they don't, it is that simple.
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