catholic church has never contradicted itself
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you would think if the catholic church were not true, that it would have contradicted itself at some point in two thousand years.
the only things that count are statements that are authoritative, things that could be considerted "infallible". the pope, intentionally, teaches, the church, on faith and morals. that is the criteria. it includes many councils and other statements by popes.
Catholics pray repetitive words with Rosary Beads yet the bible says "And when you are praying, do not use meaningless repetition as the Gentiles do, for they suppose that they will be heard for their many words. Matthew 6:7
Bishops are celibate the bible says But the Holy Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons, by means of the hypocrisy of liars seared in their own conscience as with a branding iron, men who forbid marriage and advocate abstaining from foods which God has created to be gratefully shared in by those who believe and know the truth." 1 Timothy 4:1-3
Both examples show a clear contradiction to the bible.
the bible doesn't say forbidding marriage is wrong, just that some evil men will forbid marriage. plus this is more like practice and less like doctrine, too. popes were married for a long time, no one denies it, with sanction of the catholic church. also the catholic church allows people to eat meat and such, it's not the one teaching abstaining from foods that GOd has created.
there is merely a practice not doctrine of abstaining from meat during lent to respect typical jewish customs.
as far as fasting in genearl, even Jesus did that. so that can't count as a bad on catholic practice. etc anyways
i'm not sure your point about creation in seven days and adam an eve etc
"" I'm not sure your point about creation in seven days and Adam an eve"" well the bible the catholic holy book teaches these ""storeys"" and yet there is evidence beyond reasonable doubt that these stories are in fact a total load of lies. Most Catholics look to the church for moral guidance but cannot argue with the fact of evolution or creation, surly the fact the Catholics of the modern age no longer believe such events took place contradicts the traditional teaching of the church.
For you to say "" you would think if the catholic church were not true, that it would have contradicted itself at some point in two thousand years."" . Yes like when the previous pope said that ""the use of condoms does not prevent the spread of aids"" but because that has been there teaching"s it must be true . is a absurd position to take.
i wasn't sure what your point was per the adam and eve etc stuff. the catholic church teaches that evolution is true this coincides with teh science. you might have a problem with certain fundamentalists who dont beleive in evolution, but not the catholic church. it never taught it was a false doctrine... at least you havent shown it and i havent see it.
where did a pope say the use of condoms doesn't prevent the spread of AIDS? you are paraphrasing to the point of distoriting and changing what they said, as far as i can tell. a citation or exact quote would be helpful.
http://news.bbc.co.uk... again this is a false statement and was withdrawn by the following pope who also issued an apology clearly a contradiction between the two teachings.
Furthermore the church teaches people to respect and accept other people yet some of the churches most senior officials have been proven to have abused children. It may not be written in doctrine however the very people who live and die by the catholic teachings, who devote their lives to the catholic way of life abused innocent children. This abuse was carried out by the representatives of the church this is a clear contradiction with the catholic church between teachings and actions.
You state that the "" the catholic church teaches that evolution is true"" but they have not always taught that they used to teach the bibles version of events ie "" Adam and eve"" and ""creationism""
The debate is "" catholic church has never contradicted itself"" your statement clearly show a contradiction between the old ways of teaching and the new ways.
Clearly showing the catholic church has contradicted itself.
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