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vi_spex
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The Contender
Rami
Con (against)
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6 Points

cause+(and)effect=(is)logic=absolute=matter

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Rami
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 6/1/2015 Category: Science
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 678 times Debate No: 76029
Debate Rounds (5)
Comments (29)
Votes (2)

 

vi_spex

Pro

how can mirrors be real, if our eyes arnt real?
Rami

Con

What do you mean in R1? Are you saying that our eyes aren't real, and therefore mirrors aren't? Because if you are, clearly eyes do exist, as how else do I see, and what is the two white stuff on people's faces?
Debate Round No. 1
vi_spex

Pro

im not saying our eyes are not real
Rami

Con

Mirrors are real that is what I think and I believe I am right.
Debate Round No. 2
vi_spex

Pro

i agree that mirrors are real, so how can mirrors be real, if our eyes arnt real?
Rami

Con

Okay, I think I understand. You believe that mirrors are real, but you don't understand why. Is this correct?
Debate Round No. 3
vi_spex

Pro

okay hint.. mirrors are designed for our eyes
Rami

Con

I understand now. This is like the question 'if a tree falls, but no one is around to here it, does the tree make a noise?'. If this is the case, then I say yes, it does make a noise regardless of if you can hear it or not. So yes, if eyes don't exist, mirrors exist.
Debate Round No. 4
vi_spex

Pro

you still havnt answered the question

the tree example is false, becasue if it falls in reality it makes a sound, so the statement is flawed

reality only happens now
Rami

Con

I am trying really hard to understand you. I say that mirrors exist regardless of our ability to see them. Do you want to try this debate again? I feel like I'm starting to understand you. Still, did you mean a hypothetical case where we don't have eyes?
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by lol101 1 year ago
lol101
I agree that mirrors serve a primary purpose for eyes, and are not useful if eyes don't exist. But eyes do not have a connection to mirrors that suggest one doesn't exist of the other doesn't.
Posted by lol101 1 year ago
lol101
Yes you do. How would not having eyes relate to having no mirrors. You also fail to provide reasoning for why eyes aren't real.
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
i am not applying illogical claims into my arguments
Posted by lol101 1 year ago
lol101
No it doesn't. You are applying illogical claims into your argument once again.
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
this debate makes sense
Posted by lol101 1 year ago
lol101
vi_spex, this debate makes no sense.
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
becasue we see mirrors, our eyes are real*
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
becasue my eyes are real, i can see a mirror
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
the question when answered correctly, proves why reality is absolutly real, and the answer is as simple as i can see a mirror
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
how can headphones be real if our ears arnt real?
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Vote Placed by 9spaceking 1 year ago
9spaceking
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Reasons for voting decision: pro is just asking questions and doesn't show how C & E is LAM.
Vote Placed by Preston 1 year ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Pro didnt prove anything