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cause and effect is logic

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Started: 7/20/2015 Category: Science
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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vi_spex

Pro

there is no logic in fantasy

logic is absolute

if you are lost in the forest and hungry, and you pick up a mushroom and eat it, does it matter what you think is going to happen if the mushroom is poisonous? logic is determined by matter, not by your thoughts.. you crazy person :)

you cant read these words on the screen with your eyes closed, cause and effect, absolute

if apples became poisonous today, and everyone was aware of it, would it be right to give kids apples if we wanted them to be healthy(logic)? and even if we didnt want them to be healthy, would it be right to give kids apples(morality)?

logic+(and)experience of it=(is)reason(the concept, mental simulation of logic)

reason+intent=morality
hldemi

Con

Hi vi-spex you living legend of debate org.

Now I will try to win this debate by using Deepak Chopra meme generator to help me and see how well it goes just for the fun.

So my opening statement is:


Nature explores irrational chaos so wholeness comprehends immortal energy = Death embraces new mortality


This shows us that logic is relative based upon the premises with which we feed our logical argument. If those premises are not consistent with reality then logic is useless. Unless the hidden meaning is the ground of quantum fulfillment.
Debate Round No. 1
vi_spex

Pro

thats a statement followed by an assertion, where is the argument
hldemi

Con

The argument is asserted in Qualia that is mirrored in the flow of acceptance

Remember that Your body undertakes unparalleled success every time self power experiences spontaneous molecules.
Debate Round No. 2
vi_spex

Pro

monkeys are blue therfore you are wrong
hldemi

Con

Since the world is a modality of positive mysteries I do not think that blue monkeys existence reflects nonlocal knowledge about the absolute logics quiet intrinsic excellence. Therefore you are wrong.
Debate Round No. 3
vi_spex

Pro

i get my morals from the mcd menu
hldemi

Con

Ah but then let me ask you this.

If going against human nature is in the human nature, then not going against the human nature = going against human nature.

That is why eternal stillness expresses the mechanics of joy.
Debate Round No. 4
vi_spex

Pro

machine is death, mcd menu is life
hldemi

Con

Rage against the machine is life, mcd menu is the true if blue.

So since Pro has not used any sources I'm gonna do that and win by having better sources.

This was the source of my genius arguments

https://kevinspraggettonchess.files.wordpress.com...


And of course I would like to thank ultimate source of wisdom: Deepak Chopra.

Though it was very close and interesting debate I urge you to vote Con since I offered only and good looking source.

Also remember that making a tea explores cosmic choices.

Thx Pro on your unique arguing style.


Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by whiteflame 1 year ago
whiteflame
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>Reported vote: Berend// Mod action: Removed<

5 points to Con (Conduct, S&G, Arguments). Reasons for voting decision: Pro makes no sense, like at all. I have to give this to con for the better well written arguments presented, for better conduct, and having better grammar.

[*Reason for removal*] I can understand affording arguments due to a lack of understanding, but both conduct and grammar require more explanation here.
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Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
memories are unchanging, logical
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
fact=memory
Posted by Discipulus_Didicit 1 year ago
Discipulus_Didicit
Yes I do. The mushroom may or may not be poison, but your opinion on whether is is will not change the fact, because reality is absolute.
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
the challenge is about logic thou

do you agree with the poisonous mushroom example?
Posted by Discipulus_Didicit 1 year ago
Discipulus_Didicit
And because we agree I must decline your challenge.
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
hm it cant be immoral, unless you have beliefs
Posted by Discipulus_Didicit 1 year ago
Discipulus_Didicit
I agree that unknowingly causing harm is not always immoral.
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
i can reason about pedophilia all day long, but its not bad if i am a cop trying to nail pedophiles

reason+intent=morality or immorality

action+intent=moral or immoral consequence
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
no, unless you keep doing it when you find out
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