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vi_spex
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jester96
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cause and effect is logic

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Started: 4/23/2015 Category: Science
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
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vi_spex

Pro

there is no logic in fantasy

logic is absolute

if you are lost in the forest and hungry, and you pick up a mushroom and eat it, does it matter what you think is going to happen if the mushroom is poisonous? logic is determined by matter, not by your thoughts.. you crazy person :)

you cant read these words on the screen with your eyes closed, cause and effect, absolute

if apples became poisonous today, and everyone was aware of it, would it be right to give kids apples if we wanted them to be healthy(logic)? and even if we didnt want them to be healthy, would it be right to give kids apples(morality)?

logic+(and)experience of it=(is)reason(the concept, mental simulation of logic)

reason+intent=morality
jester96

Con

Your equation is plausible but logic is not absolute it is response of cause and effect derived from experience. If a you gave a baby a poison apple and it died you would know the result and your morality would determine how you would act in a similar scenario. There is nothing "absolute" about logic. However cause and effect is absolute.
Debate Round No. 1
vi_spex

Pro

cause and effect is logic, cause cant exist without effect, and effect cant exist without cause, absolute

if you think my equations are plausible clearly you ahve done it wrong, no possibilities involved
jester96

Con

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Debate Round No. 2
jester96

Con

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Debate Round No. 3
jester96

Con

jester96 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
jester96

Con

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Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by jester96 1 year ago
jester96
Yes this is vague but I think I see the point which is why I accepted logic is derived from cause and effect which is absolute. In a way absolute cannot be associated with the term logic because logic is measurable and constantly changing if that makes sense
Posted by tejretics 1 year ago
tejretics
So the resolution is: anything that has a cause and is put into effect fits logic, i.e. is logical? Please clarify. If so, I would like to accept this, if you don't mind.
Posted by AKhattak 1 year ago
AKhattak
So all the Con has to do is prove that logic can be proven?
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
a rock is not a rock?
Posted by bman7720 1 year ago
bman7720
That's a paradox... which is the pinnacle of illogic.
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
a rock is not not a rock proves itself
Posted by bman7720 1 year ago
bman7720
Cause and effect can be proven. While basic things that we accept by logic, such as if a=a, a=b, and b=c then a=c, cannot be proven.
Posted by Philosophybro 1 year ago
Philosophybro
I dont understand? What is this debate about
Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
any example of cause and effect is sufficient
Posted by AKhattak 1 year ago
AKhattak
Can you clarify what you expect from the Con side. Should he defend illogical actions or debate the definition of Logic?
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Vote Placed by lannan13 1 year ago
lannan13
vi_spexjester96Tied
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