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# cause+effect=logic(cause and effect is logic)

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 Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point Started: 10/27/2014 Category: Science Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period Viewed: 2,637 times Debate No: 64015
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Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
there is no other possibility in reality*
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
you are touching on a different area, only now is true, so any true logic is now. know is a continuous experience, so even if you stand on the edge and look down of a cliff about to jump, you know what will happen based on what you know such as your weight. without cause and effect I couldn't use my eyes for eksample, so if I can understand these words on the screen its absolute that my eyes are matter and I can read, because If I couldn't see there would be no way for me to experience the words on the screen if reading them is the only way of understanding them

probable=pro babble
know=certain
belief=doubt

what is a cause that didn't cause anything? and what is an effect that didn't get caused? how could a ball hitting your face possibly have an effect on your face if it didn't hit your face other then you might feel the wind from the ball coming by, but then remove the ball, and no effect is happening because there is no cause

it is not just necessary, its absolute, there is no possibility in reality, as reality is absolute. if you have no hands, then I know you are not holding a rock in your hand. the skin of a bear is a dead bear, and if you have a bear skin, I know you got it from a bear.
Posted by Atmas 2 years ago
I don't know how cause/effect/ and logic can be talked about without necessity not coming up.
Logic = A long chain system where the variables of a previous event determines the next.
or Cause and effect, where the effect happens necessarily from it's cause.
When building a logic formula,
If A then B.
You must know 100% of all variables of A before you can know what B will be 100%.
Since it would take far too long to know 100% of all variables before deciding what an event would be, we have developed a system to approximate B by accepting a higher than 50% relevance rate, or an educated guess.
So pushing you off a cliff doesn't say if you will die or not. Pushing you with 100 lbs of force off a 100ft cliff doesn't say if you will die or not. Pushing you with 100 lbs of force off a 100ft cliff toward the rocky shore below, will result in your death. Do we know 100% that you will die? Well, no, not 100%. But we accept that it's unlikely you would survive due to our knowledge about the force of the push, the height of the fall, and the rocks below. At the very least, if we are wrong about you dying, you would at least be pretty broken.
Is using approximation the same as using logic? Maybe, maybe not, but it's worked for us for tens of thousands of years.
Necessity is necessary for Logic to work, if the one event doesn't follow necessarily, then it isn't the effect of the cause you're assuming, or you're not seeing all the variables.

So yes, cause and effect is logic, but only if the effect is a necessary outcome.
Posted by Imperfiect 2 years ago
yes thank you gorodin for not voting because you'd be report for voteobmbing...
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
thanks gorodin
Posted by Imperfiect 2 years ago
so he wins for being on the right side lmfao...
Posted by GoOrDin 2 years ago
I am in a debate with both of You right now.
And I am on the side of Vi_spex in this debate.

Reason: An effect without cause is illogical. That is the definition of Effect, caused by something. Hence that is logical that a Cause has an Effect.

Vi_spex wins.

One can stipulate not all things or occurrences are actually causes. But all effects still come from a cause. A cause has an effect, even if subconscious; such as in the event of a political cause.
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
i have 100 grams of weed, a big rock plate, naaais
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
sure xD
Posted by Imperfiect 2 years ago
So you just admitted to crime?
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