The Instigator
vi_spex
Pro (for)
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The Contender
AdithyaShark
Con (against)
Winning
6 Points

cause+effect=logic(cause and effect is logic)

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after 2 votes the winner is...
AdithyaShark
Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 4/18/2015 Category: Science
Updated: 1 year ago Status: Post Voting Period
Viewed: 373 times Debate No: 73723
Debate Rounds (5)
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Votes (2)

 

vi_spex

Pro

there is no logic in fantasy

logic is absolute

if you are lost in the forest and hungry, and you pick up a mushroom and eat it, does it matter what you think is going to happen if the mushroom is poisonous?

you cant read these words on the screen with your eyes closed

if apples became poisonous today, and everyone was aware of it, would it be right to give kids apples if we wanted them to be healthy(logic)? and even if we didnt want them to be healthy, would it be right to give kids apples(morality)?

logic+(and)experience of it=(is)reason(the concept, mental simulation of logic)

reason+intent=morality
AdithyaShark

Con

I accept. I thank vi_spex for this debate.

OB1. None of Pro's arguments argue for the resolution.
OB2. BoP is on Pro to prove that anything that has a cause and has effect IS logic, and not "logical".
OB3. Pro seems to confuse the terms "logic" and "logical". Pro seems to be arguing that anything that is caused and has effect is logical. That is obvious, but contrary to the resolution.

DEFINITIONS
Cause - "a person or thing that gives rise to an action, phenomenon, or condition." [1]
Effect - "a change that is a result or consequence of an action or other cause." [2]
Logic - "reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity." [3]

SOURCES

[1] Google - Define "cause" - https://www.google.com...
[2] Google - Define "effect" - https://www.google.com...
[3] Google - Define "logic" - https://www.google.com...


Debate Round No. 1
vi_spex

Pro

logic is logical, non logic is not logic
AdithyaShark

Con

I thank vi_spex for their arguments. As BOP is on Pro, I need only to refute Pro's arguments to win the debate.


REBUTTALS

"logic is logical, non logic is not logic"
But it may cause a serious misinterpretation of what Pro has to prove. Pro has to prove than any cause and effect manifests as logic.

I have addressed all other arguments via. OB3.
Debate Round No. 2
vi_spex

Pro

the proof is in your answers
AdithyaShark

Con

REFUTATION

"The proof is in your answers."

This is not an argument, thus is irrelevant to the resolution. I extend all my arguments.

Thanks again to vi_spex.
Debate Round No. 3
AdithyaShark

Con

Thanks. The resolution remains negated. @vi_spex, you seem to have blocked me, can you open it? I want to send you a friend request.
Debate Round No. 4
vi_spex

Pro

full negation here.. your case is solid
AdithyaShark

Con

Thanks to Pro for the graceful concession and for setting up this debate. Such concessions are rare on DDO. I thank Pro for this debate. Vote Con.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by vi_spex 1 year ago
vi_spex
sense=logic
Posted by lord_megatron 1 year ago
lord_megatron
AGAIN this doesn't make sense
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Vote Placed by tejretics 1 year ago
tejretics
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Reasons for voting decision: Graceful concession by Pro. Kudos to Pro, as such concessions are rarely seen on DDO.
Vote Placed by Le-vox-von-zhizn 1 year ago
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Reasons for voting decision: Concession.