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cause+effect=logic

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Started: 1/25/2015 Category: Science
Updated: 2 years ago Status: Post Voting Period
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vi_spex

Pro

if all apples became poisonous today, and we were all aware of it, would it be right to give kids apples if we wanted them to be healthy?
bat9581

Con

After doing research, I think it's safe for me to accept you're challenge.

First, let's look at the definitions. These definitions are from google. Logic: reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity. cause and effect: the principle of causation and causation: the action of causing something, So cause and effect is the principle of the action of causing something
"if all apples became poisonous today, and we were all aware of it, would it be right to give kids apples if we wanted them to be healthy?" is your argument. "Would it be right," is the reasoning (in this case a question), your cause is "apples become poisonous," and you're effect is... That is not cause and effect. That is cause and logic make logic, which is well known to humans, but does not state an effect. All you say is we are aware of it additionally.

If we eat pizza, then we become happy, we could eat pizza to become happy, is an example you could give in what you are thinking. However this is again a fail to prove a false idea. If we look back at the definitions, we will find that logic is reasoning conducted. That is a pre-given fact, not reasoning.

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Google search engine (definitions)

Thank you for starting this debate, and good luck!
Debate Round No. 1
vi_spex

Pro

there is no logic in fantasy, logic is determined by matter
bat9581

Con

I do not quite understand your Round 2 argument, so I am restricted from turning back on it until it is clarified. If you do not clarify it voters might take points off for conduct.

Now suppose you are in a kitchen. You see that the water your eggs are in is boiling, and that the eggs should be ready. You take the eggs and water away from the stove, and when they are cooled, you drain the water. You burn yourself on the draining water and supply ice. The ice does not help. My opponent, pick one cause and one effect and see if you can make a logic solution to them.

If you can't but think it's possible, make your own scenario and I will still be able to prove you wrong.
Debate Round No. 2
vi_spex

Pro

you havnt answered my question

you burned your hand is logic, wheather i can be Jesus or not is irrelevant, how do you burn your hand without cause and effect
bat9581

Con

That's not logic, look back at the definition page, and also there is no effect specified there.
I will post more next round.
Debate Round No. 3
bat9581

Con

bat9581 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 4
bat9581

Con

bat9581 forfeited this round.
Debate Round No. 5
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Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
ye :)
Posted by m8 2 years ago
m8
@con: Technically, he did put a definition of logic before you did. The debate title is 'cause+effect=logic'. That is a definition of sorts, and it is that by which he goes.
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
nah, forget the last one
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
hmm, belief=unresonable
knowledge=resonable
know=logical
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
it is not resonable to feed your kid battery acid if you want it to be healthy, based on logic, if the logic was that he had the strength of superman, but he was an alien kid somehow, that can eat battery acid, then it would be moral

but killing evil is good, so if the alien kid turned evil it would be immoral to feed it battery acid unless you have no other choice like if it will kill you if you dont feed it, then its about self preservation
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
LOGIC+experience of it=reason(concept of logic)
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
only 2 emotions are true, joy and pain, and lies are evil

logic determines right and wrong
Posted by Longline 2 years ago
Longline
Government are given power to makes decisions for majority group of individual. They can choose to kill one individual person for the sick of what they might feel is right.

Right can be a matter of feelings, human tuition, In order for someone to be acceptable as right, one human cannot decide, inorder to Prove something is Logical, one mind is capable of this.
LOGIC MUST BE PROVEN, RIGHT AND WRONG DOES NOT NECESSARILY.
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
doing it the right way is logical, how can you be logical without reason
Posted by vi_spex 2 years ago
vi_spex
if you are doing something wrong are you then logical?
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