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china's government

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Voting Style: Open Point System: 7 Point
Started: 5/13/2008 Category: News
Updated: 9 years ago Status: Voting Period
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auti96

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i don't think china is a communist state because. Communism does not have a centralized government. They are closer to socialism than communism. I would say a mixture of totalitarian and socialism, because totalitarian is of or pertaining to a centralized government that does not tolerate parties. Socialism means; a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
kykrebs

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For my arguement i guess i will go that China is a socialist republic.
My first point is 1)They are recognized as a socialist republic and they follow the guidelines for a socialist republic.
1) They are recognized as a socialist republic
After many years and many reorganizations of the Chinese government it is really hard to specify what type of government they really have. But, according to Encylopedia Britannica they are most defined as a socialist republic. The definition of socialist is 'a political and economic theory or system in which the means of production, distribution, and exchange are owned by the community collectively, usually through the state' as defined by the free online dictionary. For an example,I point towards the state council,'the highest state administrative organ. It enforces that laws and decisions formulated and approved by the National People's Congress and it s Standing Committee, to which it is responsible and accountable. Within the limits of its power and functions, it has the power to adopt necessary administrative measures and regulations, and issue orders'(China Today) the state council also 'exercises unified leadership over the work of the ministries and commissions and the local governments at different levels. It directs and administers affairs of economy, finance, banking, commerce, education, science, culture, public health, physical culture, family planning, public security, urban and rural development, judicial administration and supervision. In addition it is responsible for the strengthening of national defense, and conducts foreign and civil affairs as well as affairs concerning the nationalities and overseas Chinese' (China Today). Showing that the government really does take a centralized role to help provide evenly for everyone.
2)The second definition i provide is the one for republic, 1. a form of government in which the people or their elected representatives possess the supreme power
2. a country in which the head of state is an elected or nominated president (the free online dictionary). Once again looking towards China, their president is elected by their elected officials in the National People's Congress. Though it is one party, they are still elected through the people. Through their Socialist Republic, they also are allowed to mass produce goods, as socialism is the mid-point between democracy and communism.

MY ARGUEMENTS:
Because you are contending that China is a totalitarian socialist government, that is what i will argue :)
Going off of your arguement ,that they are leaning towards the totalitarian state because they don't have any parties, i would have to disagree. Though they only have a one party system, they still have that one party. Totalitarianism is defined as Of, 'relating to, being, or imposing a form of government in which the political authority exercises absolute and centralized control over all aspects of life, the individual is subordinated to the state, and opposing political and cultural expression is suppressed' (The Free Online Dictionary) again i would definitely disagree. (i would have just only argued your definition, but i wanted a more specific definition as well)Opposing political and cultural expression would probably be a Monarcy form of government, but when we look at it, China is rebuilding the forbidden city, the ultimate expression of monarcy. And as for complete control, China is not communist russia where they told the citizens exactly what their job would be, almost reverting them back to serfdom under the tsars, and business is doing well. Socialism is more of the government that has say in business but no actual complete control. That is why I think China is Socialistic Republic, not Totalitarian Socialism.

(Also, i wanted to thank you for starting a debate about China, i have many friend who lived in china, my own mom lived in south korea for a while and visited china all the time. It is really a fascinating country that will definitely have an influence on the future of america :)
Debate Round No. 1
auti96

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Debate Round No. 2
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This round was forfeited because the debator did not post his or her arguement in the alooted time. Just kidding, if it wasn't for all the spelling mistakes i would have fooled you all. Ha Ha.Just kidding. I don't have anything to rebut because both my opponent and i did not post. Because i do have a free posting i will talk aboiut the real issues here. Terrorism. Terrorism is no joke. terrorism is almost as bad as the government covering up the jfk assasination. (FBI coverup...just like in the family guy episode where lee harvey oswald say the dangerous killer in the grassy knoll, but has no skill with a gun.) It is worse than having to watch an all day viewing of THE VIEW, which is actually a good talk show.(i miss rosey)(and star)(and that warrior princess oprah... i heard she got her own show, good for her!! :) now cheese is rather amazing in europe i've never been there nor have i tasted the cheese but it does look good you know for being covered in mold and stuff... Yeah blue man group.
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